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1.

FW: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] FYI--Cthulhu In The Style Of Dr. Seuss

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:24 pm (PST)



Forwarding…

From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Pitch
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 7:38 AM
To: ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] FYI--Cthulhu In The Style Of Dr. Seuss

Aloha,

Appearing at IO9.com, so many list members may already
have seen this updated report.

Artist DrFaustusAu has added many new pages to his ongoing
project re-telling The Call of Cthulhu in the style of Dr. Seuss.
As is the case with most things touching upon Mythos matters,
I find myself laughing hilariously and shuddering with nameless
dreads at one and the same time.

Take a look...if you dare...to chortle at the guise of Cthulhu
a la Dr. Seuss...(I enjoy the touch of red along the bottoms
of Cthulhu's tentacles...as if they were slithery killer Louboutins
out of some fashion horror show...)

http://io9.com/5847879/what-if-dr-seuss-wrote-the-call-of-cthulhu

Not Musing About The Mythos When I Can Muse At All! Rose,

Pitch

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2a.

Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:35 pm (PST)



Hi Graham,

There is a bit of a trend (quite a big trend actually) in, mainly American
Paganism, whereby people think that Hutton - and other scholars - are trying
to, or have 'laid down the last word' on this history of Pagan Witchcraft.
Just because he is a professional scholar. This is not the case though, and
is not what he intended. The study of history is a continuous dialogue
between different researchers. Hutton has contributed his part, and other
have or will people contribute their part. One thing that is certain though,
is that all Ben Whitmore has done with his attempted critique of Hutton's
'Triumph of the Moon' is to pick holes in it. Whitmore didn't attempt to
present his own version of a history of modern Pagan Witchcraft because, as
he said himself, it was too much work.

See the freely available article by Hutton here, where he answers Whitmore:
" <http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/article/view/10684> Writing the
History of Witchcraft: A Personal View", and Peg Aloi's review of Whitmore's
book, also freely downloadable, "Review: The Trials of the Moon" here:

http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/issue/current

And my interview with Hutton here, which is like an easier-to-read intro to
his article in The Pom.

http://necropolisnow.blogspot.com/2011/05/interview-with-professor-ronald-hu
tton.html

~Caroline.

-----------

3b. Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au grahfurn

Date: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:23 pm ((PST))

Yep I couldn't agree more Caroline - approaching the study of paganism from
both perspectives, as both objective scholar and practitioner, is a worthy
path that relatively few would tread I'd suggest. I am no expert by any
means, but I have to say that someone who greatly impresses me in this area
is Prof Ronald Hutton, particularly after I read his book The Triumph of the
Moon. However, I understand that even this seemingly very well researched
and unbiased work has attracted some criticism and controversyfrom various
parties - so I guess no matter what one might produce, there will always be
others who will counter it - but that's the nature of the subject I
suppose... a potential minefield of differing interpretations of historical
finds, mythology, traditions, lineages, etc. All compounded by the deeply
personal and spiritual nature of the topic - so I definitely wish you well
with your work and hope you won't be deterred by such things.

Also, I think that unfortunately, because much of the ancient knowledge and
wisdom was so culturally diverse, largely passed down through word of mouth,
and even repressed in more recent times, there will always be a great deal
that we will never know. But that may not be such a bad thing, as it will
ensure that the element of mystery remains - waiting for new followers to
re-discover, interpret, develop and pass on the mystical experience in their
own way, leading to neo-paganism being an adaptive path - which is one of
its greatest strengths I'd suggest - something that the so-called "book
religions" struggle greatly with.

Once more many thanks for all of the interesting posts you regularly
provide, which are always read and appreciated :)

Blessings and best wishes, Graham.

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2b.

Thanks - Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au   grahfurn

Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:14 pm (PST)



Many thanks for the info Caroline - I'll definitely read what you have referenced - some of which I am familiar with. All very interesting... :)

Cheers & BB, Graham.

________________________________
From: Caroline Tully <heliade@bigpond.com>
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: AAR in San Fran


 
Hi Graham,

There is a bit of a trend (quite a big trend actually) in, mainly American
Paganism, whereby people think that Hutton - and other scholars - are trying
to, or have 'laid down the last word' on this history of Pagan Witchcraft.
Just because he is a professional scholar. This is not the case though, and
is not what he intended. The study of history is a continuous dialogue
between different researchers. Hutton has contributed his part, and other
have or will people contribute their part. One thing that is certain though,
is that all Ben Whitmore has done with his attempted critique of Hutton's
'Triumph of the Moon' is to pick holes in it. Whitmore didn't attempt to
present his own version of a history of modern Pagan Witchcraft because, as
he said himself, it was too much work.

See the freely available article by Hutton here, where he answers Whitmore:
" <http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/article/view/10684> Writing the
History of Witchcraft: A Personal View", and Peg Aloi's review of Whitmore's
book, also freely downloadable, "Review: The Trials of the Moon" here:

http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/issue/current

And my interview with Hutton here, which is like an easier-to-read intro to
his article in The Pom.

http://necropolisnow.blogspot.com/2011/05/interview-with-professor-ronald-hu
tton.html

~Caroline.

-----------

3b. Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au grahfurn

Date: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:23 pm ((PST))

Yep I couldn't agree more Caroline - approaching the study of paganism from
both perspectives, as both objective scholar and practitioner, is a worthy
path that relatively few would tread I'd suggest. I am no expert by any
means, but I have to say that someone who greatly impresses me in this area
is Prof Ronald Hutton, particularly after I read his book The Triumph of the
Moon. However, I understand that even this seemingly very well researched
and unbiased work has attracted some criticism and controversyfrom various
parties - so I guess no matter what one might produce, there will always be
others who will counter it - but that's the nature of the subject I
suppose... a potential minefield of differing interpretations of historical
finds, mythology, traditions, lineages, etc. All compounded by the deeply
personal and spiritual nature of the topic - so I definitely wish you well
with your work and hope you won't be deterred by such things.

Also, I think that unfortunately, because much of the ancient knowledge and
wisdom was so culturally diverse, largely passed down through word of mouth,
and even repressed in more recent times, there will always be a great deal
that we will never know. But that may not be such a bad thing, as it will
ensure that the element of mystery remains - waiting for new followers to
re-discover, interpret, develop and pass on the mystical experience in their
own way, leading to neo-paganism being an adaptive path - which is one of
its greatest strengths I'd suggest - something that the so-called "book
religions" struggle greatly with.

Once more many thanks for all of the interesting posts you regularly
provide, which are always read and appreciated :)

Blessings and best wishes, Graham.

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[13Witches] **Tarot Tuesday**, 11/29/2011, 12:00 am



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[WitchesWorkshop] Digest Number 4884

Messages In This Digest (5 Messages)

1.
Steampunk From: Tim Hartridge
2.
American Academy of Religion 2011 From: Caroline Tully
3a.
Re: AAR in San Fran From: Caroline Tully
3b.
Re: AAR in San Fran From: Graham
4.
What I did at the American Schools of Oriental Research annual meeti From: Caroline Tully

Messages

1.

Steampunk

Posted by: "Tim Hartridge" ozpagan@ozpagan.com   wwwozpagancom

Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:51 pm (PST)



Steampunk fashion and now Steampunk Tarot.

http://www.facebook.com/Steampunktarot

vinum sabbati,
Tim

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2.

American Academy of Religion 2011

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:52 pm (PST)



What I did at the American Academy of Religion 2011 annual meeting in San
Francisco

Thursday 17 November, 5.00pm

I was actually at the American Schools of Oriental Research annual meeting -
an archaeology conference - at this stage, having just presented my paper
for that conference. On this night however, my friend Sam and I went out to
dinner and the opera (Carmen) with Pagans, Fritz Muntean and Deborah Bender.
I did not officially transfer over to the American Academy of Religion
conference until the Saturday night, as per below:

Saturday, November 19, 9.00pm - 11.00pm

Northern California Local Council of the Covenant of the Goddess welcomes
the American Academy of Religion and the San Francisco Bay Area Pagan
Community! (Hilton Hotel).

This was an amazing event that included representatives of Afro-Diasporic,
Ceremonial Magic, Druid, Heathen, Pagan, and Wiccan groups. There were over
30 different groups, organisations, and distinguished Elders present,
representing the Bay Area's diverse Pagan and Heathen scene.

Sunday, 20 November, 7.30am

Got up extremely early to attend a young scholars breakfast organised by the
Academic Dean of Cherry Hill Seminary, Wendy Griffin (it wasn't necessarily
for 'young' people, more early career researchers). Then we all went over to
the first session, listed just below:

Sunday, 9.00am - 11.30am

AAR Contemporary Pagan Studies Group and Religion and Ecology Group

Whitney Bauman, Florida International University Presiding. Theme: Elemental
Theology and Feminist Earth Practices. Panelists: Rosemary R. Reuther,
Claremont Graduate University; and Starhawk, Earth Activist Training.
Responding: Marion S. Grau, Graduate Theological Union; Jone Salomonsen,
University of Oslo; and Heather Eaton, Saint Paul University.

Lunch 11.30 - 1.00pm

I had lunch with Reclaiming Witch, Macha NightMare, who I have known online
for years. It was great to get to chat intensively with her and I can see
that if we had more time we could go on and on talking. Hope to do that some
other time!

1 - 2.30pm

AAR Contemporary Pagan Studies Group

Graham Harvey, Open University, Presiding. Theme: West Coast Pagan Practices
and Ideas. Papers: Christopher W. Chase, Iowa State University. Building a
California Bildung: Theodore Rozak's and Alan Watts' Contributions to Pagan
Hermeneutics; Kristy Coleman, Santa Clara University and San Jose State
University. Re-riting Women: Dianic Wicca; [and unfortunately cancelled]
Kerry Noonan, California State University, Northridge. "Wish They All Could
Be California Grrrls?": The Influence of California Women on the Goddess
Movement and Neo-Paganism. Responding: Fritz Muntean, Pomegranate: The
International Journal of Pagan Studies.

3.00 - 4.30pm

Simply had to go rest in my hotel room.

5.00pm - 6.30pm

Indigenous Religious Traditions Group

Jace Weaver, University of Georgia, Presiding. Theme: behind Enemy Lines.
Papers: Lee Gilmore, California State University Northridge, and Sabina
Magliocco, California State University Northridge. Pagans at the Parliament:
Interfaith Dialogue between Pagan and Indigenous Communities; Carmen
Landsdown. "Dances with Dependency": An Indigenous Theological Exploration
of Dependency and Development Theories and Their Influences on Liberation
Theology for the Twenty-first Century; [and an unfortunate no-show] Comfort
Max-Wirth, Florida International University. The Occult and Politics in
Ghana: Tapping into the Pentecostal Discourse of Demonizing African
Traditional Religion as a Political Strategy; [and another no-show!!!]
Orenda Boucher, Concordia University. Violence and the Grotesque of Sacred
Bodies: Iconography of Blessed Kateri Tekakwitha.

6.30pm

Collapsed from tiredness in my hotel room.

Monday 21 November

7.30am

Through lack of sleep, unable to rise early enough to attend the Cherry Hill
Seminary breakfast. (Grrr!) Slept in sufficiently to be fresh for presenting
my paper today.

1.00pm - 3.30pm

AAR Contemporary Pagan Studies Group

Shawn Arthur, Appalachian State University, Presiding. Theme: Pagan Analysis
and Critique of "Religion". Papers: Suzanne Owen, Leeds Trinity.
Definitions, Decisions and Druids: Presenting Druidry as a Religion;
Christine Kraemer, Cherry Hill Seminary. Perceptions of Scholarship in
Contemporary Paganism; Helen Berger, Brandeis University. Fifteen Years of
Continuity and Change within the American Pagan Community; Caroline Tully,
University of Melbourne. Researching the Past is a Foreign Country:
Cognitive Dissonance as a Response by Practitioner Pagans to Academic
Research on the History of Pagan Religions. Business Meeting: Chas Clifton,
Colorado State University, Presiding.

4.00pm - 6.30pm

Western Esotericism Group

Cathy Gutierrez, Sweet Briar College, Presiding. Theme: Western Esotericism
and Material Culture. Papers: Egil Asprem, University of Amsterdam.
Technofetishism, Instrumentation, and the Materiality of Esoteric Knowledge;
Shawn Eyer, John F. Kennedy University. The Use of Tracing Boards and Other
Art Objects as Physical Aids of Symbolic Communication in the Rituals and
Practices of Freemasonry; Stephen Wehmeyer, Champlain College. Conjurational
Contraptions: "Techno-gnosis", Mechanical Wizardry, and the Material Culture
of African American Folk Magic; Henrik Bogdan, University of Gothenburg.
"Objets d'Art Noir", Magical Engines, and Gateways to Other Dimensions:
Understanding Hierophanies in Contemporary Occultism; Joseph Christian
Greer, Harvard University. Storming the Citadel for Knowledge, Aesthetics
and Profit: The Dreamachine in Twentieth Century Esotericism.

6.30 pm

European Society for the Study of Western Esotericism and Aries Reception

The European Society of the Study of Western Esotericism and its associated
journal Aries invite[d] current and potential members of ESSWE and current
and potential contributors to Aries to a reception to hear briefly about
plans for ESSWE and Aries, and to renew or extend contacts within the field.

(There was also a session on Saturday 19 November from 8.30am - 12.30pm that
I was invited to present in but which I could not attend, as I was still at
ASOR: Phoenix Rising Academy. Theme: Demons in the Academy? Renouncing
Rejected Knowledge, Again. Description: Join us for a special session
exploring the transdisciplinary options for balanced and integrative
approaches to Western Esotericism, while drawing attention to issued
relating to the focus on disinterested empiricism as the sole acceptable
method for the study of these topics. Integrative models and approaches
combining scholarly rigor with imaginative and sympathetic engagement have
long been established in many areas of the humanities and social sciences.
Yet the question of scholarly overengagment with their topic continues to be
a point of contention, while voices calling from channels of dialogue and
mutual understanding between scholars and practitioners in order to better
explore the application and potential of such epistemologies are frequently
met with suspicion in academic circles. In this session we seek to explore
ways to build bridges of fruitful communication and mutual understanding
between seemingly disparate voices and perspectives. Topics include:
Legitimate ways of knowing: experiential knowledge and/or symbolic
perception; How can we learn from each other? Bridging the
practitioner-scholar divide; Is history and discourse analysis enough?;
Paradigms for integration and applied transdisciplinary methodology.
Details: www.phoenixrising.org.gr/events

That's All Folks!

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3a.

Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:58 pm (PST)



Hi Graham,

Yes, my proposal *sounds* like it might be poking wounds and therefore
contribute to controversy, but I don't think it did. I have interests in
both camps - the Pagan practitioner and the scholars who study them - and
the scholars who are also Pagan, and the Pagans who are also scholars. It's
not a black and white antagonistic situation, there is a gradation of more
and less scholarly approaches to Paganism, and scholars are not laying down
'last words' on Pagan subjects, but simply contributing to the ongoing
discourse. I welcome the scholarship on modern Paganism, it helps me look at
Paganism from the outside, or from another angle. I think it's really
healthy and I find it stimulating.

~Caroline.

-----------

Many thanks for sharing Caroline - from reading the proposal, I'm sure yours
would have been a very interesting conference presentation, given the
controversial and potentially sensitive nature of the topic...

BB Graham.

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3b.

Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au   grahfurn

Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:23 pm (PST)



Yep I couldn't agree more Caroline - approaching the study of paganism from both perspectives, as both objective scholar and practitioner, is a worthy path that relatively few would tread I'd suggest. I am no expert by any means, but I have to say that someone who greatly impresses me in this area is Prof Ronald Hutton, particularly after I read his book The Triumph of the Moon. However, I understand that even this seemingly very well researched and unbiased work has attracted some criticism and controversyfrom various parties - so I guess no matter what one might produce, there will always be others who will counter it - but that's the nature of the subject I suppose... a potential minefield of differing interpretations of historical finds, mythology, traditions, lineages, etc. All compounded by the deeply personal and spiritual nature of the topic - so I definitely wish you well with your work and hope you won't be deterred by such things.

Also, I think that unfortunately, because much of the ancient knowledge and wisdom was so culturally diverse, largely passed down through word of mouth, and even repressed in more recent times, there will always be a great deal that we will never know. But that may not be such a bad thing, as it will ensure that the element of mystery remains - waiting for new followers to re-discover, interpret, develop and pass on the mystical experience in their own way, leading to neo-paganism being an adaptive path - which is one of its greatest strengths I'd suggest - something that the so-called "book religions" struggle greatly with.

Once more many thanks for all of the interesting posts you regularly provide, which are always read and appreciated :)

Blessings and best wishes, Graham.

________________________________
From: Caroline Tully <heliade@bigpond.com>
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 7:28 AM
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: AAR in San Fran


 
Hi Graham,

Yes, my proposal *sounds* like it might be poking wounds and therefore
contribute to controversy, but I don't think it did. I have interests in
both camps - the Pagan practitioner and the scholars who study them - and
the scholars who are also Pagan, and the Pagans who are also scholars. It's
not a black and white antagonistic situation, there is a gradation of more
and less scholarly approaches to Paganism, and scholars are not laying down
'last words' on Pagan subjects, but simply contributing to the ongoing
discourse. I welcome the scholarship on modern Paganism, it helps me look at
Paganism from the outside, or from another angle. I think it's really
healthy and I find it stimulating.

~Caroline.

-----------

Many thanks for sharing Caroline - from reading the proposal, I'm sure yours
would have been a very interesting conference presentation, given the
controversial and potentially sensitive nature of the topic...

BB Graham.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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4.

What I did at the American Schools of Oriental Research annual meeti

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:22 pm (PST)



For anyone who's interested, this is what I did at the American Schools of
Oriental Research annual meeting in San Francisco, November 2011 - and why I
was SO TIRED by the time I got to the Covenant of the Goddess AAR reception!
So tired..

http://necropolisnow.blogspot.com/2011/11/what-i-did-at-american-schools-of.
html

~Caroline.

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Dream - Working with the Masters From: Holly Stokes

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1.

Dream - Working with the Masters

Posted by: "Holly Stokes" holly@ravenoriginals.com   hollyberrysheart

Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:48 am (PST)



I was having a pretty wild dream this morning. I was in this place on a
mountain that was like a monastery where one might go to be trained by the
masters. My husband was there as well. We were both in the physical course
together.. we were being taught something like Tai Chi but it was called To
Tai Chi or something like that . something only the masters knew. Suddenly
one of the masters recognized me and called out my name and said.. Holly,
what on Earth are you doing in this class . you should be in the class for
the creatives. I said to her, because I want to do it all. Everyone in the
class laughed, even the masters. the master was like. but no one can do it
all and no one needs to do it all .. and I said but I want to learn it all
and at least give everything a try. I want to see for myself how much I can
do... I want to explore all the abilities inside me.

The master and the other students then began to tell about how the classes
for the creatives were very hard. Telling about some of their own
experiences from the classes. They started going on about how the master
would describe things for you to draw and you would have to draw from your
own mind ... you would not be given an image in the physical to draw from.
I was then shown images of their results and the master spoke about how
different everyone's perspectives were and how beautiful each drawing turned
out. I understood this and appreciated the process and that this would be
something that would just make me better at what I already do. but it did
not change the fact that I wanted to try the harder things. things that I
had never tried before to see what other abilities were inside me.

The Master appreciated my wanting to learn and so allowed me to do so.

I was then given this task that was extremely odd in my mind. I had to open
up this fruit/plant looking thing that had something in its center .. it was
round and had thousands of hair like moving parts.. very compact and the
size of a silver dollar. I had to be very careful taking it out . placing it
in the palm of my hand and moving it to this big cushion type thing that
wasn't really a cushion.. I'm not sure what it was. The master had told me
what it was but that bit I forgot. When I placed this thing on the cushion
looking thing it began moving from inside its center - outward. the cushion
looking thing it sat on then began to grow. The master said to me that
whatever it is placed on.. grows. It has the ability to turn even the
smallest stone into a mountain.

The next scene in this dream was as if that master and I were floating
overhead while this thing I took from the plant was creating a mountain. as
the rock it was on grew it would move to another section of the rock and the
rock would continue to grow and grow until it was indeed a very large
mountain.

Suddenly my dream leads to an end where even in the dream it felt also as
though I had skipped past many things to get to this part of the dream. I
was in some sort of group discussion about death and I spoke up to say. but
I already know where I go, I have seen it. Everyone paused. the master
looked at me quizzically and asked me to tell them what it was I saw.

I spoke of a large stone mountain that was dome shaped surrounded by pine
trees. The Master then said I know exactly where that it.. let me show you
and she then took me to that place . we went there and we were floating
above it and I looked at her and said something like, see.. I told you I
had seen it ( this was a place only the masters knew of .. I was told. she
again looked at me quizzically) and thats where I woke from the dream.

Note: there were lots of details that I had also seen in this dream that I
haven't described here such as the vibrant colors of the drawings the
students had done.. the landscape of the mountain the monastery was on. some
of the tasks the students were taking part in.. etc.


Many Blessings,
Raventalker

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