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FW: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] FYI--Cthulhu In The Style Of Dr. Seuss

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:24 pm (PST)



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Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 7:38 AM
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Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] FYI--Cthulhu In The Style Of Dr. Seuss

Aloha,

Appearing at IO9.com, so many list members may already
have seen this updated report.

Artist DrFaustusAu has added many new pages to his ongoing
project re-telling The Call of Cthulhu in the style of Dr. Seuss.
As is the case with most things touching upon Mythos matters,
I find myself laughing hilariously and shuddering with nameless
dreads at one and the same time.

Take a look...if you dare...to chortle at the guise of Cthulhu
a la Dr. Seuss...(I enjoy the touch of red along the bottoms
of Cthulhu's tentacles...as if they were slithery killer Louboutins
out of some fashion horror show...)

http://io9.com/5847879/what-if-dr-seuss-wrote-the-call-of-cthulhu

Not Musing About The Mythos When I Can Muse At All! Rose,

Pitch

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Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Caroline Tully" heliade@bigpond.com   willowitch2001

Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:35 pm (PST)



Hi Graham,

There is a bit of a trend (quite a big trend actually) in, mainly American
Paganism, whereby people think that Hutton - and other scholars - are trying
to, or have 'laid down the last word' on this history of Pagan Witchcraft.
Just because he is a professional scholar. This is not the case though, and
is not what he intended. The study of history is a continuous dialogue
between different researchers. Hutton has contributed his part, and other
have or will people contribute their part. One thing that is certain though,
is that all Ben Whitmore has done with his attempted critique of Hutton's
'Triumph of the Moon' is to pick holes in it. Whitmore didn't attempt to
present his own version of a history of modern Pagan Witchcraft because, as
he said himself, it was too much work.

See the freely available article by Hutton here, where he answers Whitmore:
" <http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/article/view/10684> Writing the
History of Witchcraft: A Personal View", and Peg Aloi's review of Whitmore's
book, also freely downloadable, "Review: The Trials of the Moon" here:

http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/issue/current

And my interview with Hutton here, which is like an easier-to-read intro to
his article in The Pom.

http://necropolisnow.blogspot.com/2011/05/interview-with-professor-ronald-hu
tton.html

~Caroline.

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3b. Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au grahfurn

Date: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:23 pm ((PST))

Yep I couldn't agree more Caroline - approaching the study of paganism from
both perspectives, as both objective scholar and practitioner, is a worthy
path that relatively few would tread I'd suggest. I am no expert by any
means, but I have to say that someone who greatly impresses me in this area
is Prof Ronald Hutton, particularly after I read his book The Triumph of the
Moon. However, I understand that even this seemingly very well researched
and unbiased work has attracted some criticism and controversyfrom various
parties - so I guess no matter what one might produce, there will always be
others who will counter it - but that's the nature of the subject I
suppose... a potential minefield of differing interpretations of historical
finds, mythology, traditions, lineages, etc. All compounded by the deeply
personal and spiritual nature of the topic - so I definitely wish you well
with your work and hope you won't be deterred by such things.

Also, I think that unfortunately, because much of the ancient knowledge and
wisdom was so culturally diverse, largely passed down through word of mouth,
and even repressed in more recent times, there will always be a great deal
that we will never know. But that may not be such a bad thing, as it will
ensure that the element of mystery remains - waiting for new followers to
re-discover, interpret, develop and pass on the mystical experience in their
own way, leading to neo-paganism being an adaptive path - which is one of
its greatest strengths I'd suggest - something that the so-called "book
religions" struggle greatly with.

Once more many thanks for all of the interesting posts you regularly
provide, which are always read and appreciated :)

Blessings and best wishes, Graham.

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Thanks - Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au   grahfurn

Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:14 pm (PST)



Many thanks for the info Caroline - I'll definitely read what you have referenced - some of which I am familiar with. All very interesting... :)

Cheers & BB, Graham.

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From: Caroline Tully <heliade@bigpond.com>
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011 8:05 AM
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: AAR in San Fran


 
Hi Graham,

There is a bit of a trend (quite a big trend actually) in, mainly American
Paganism, whereby people think that Hutton - and other scholars - are trying
to, or have 'laid down the last word' on this history of Pagan Witchcraft.
Just because he is a professional scholar. This is not the case though, and
is not what he intended. The study of history is a continuous dialogue
between different researchers. Hutton has contributed his part, and other
have or will people contribute their part. One thing that is certain though,
is that all Ben Whitmore has done with his attempted critique of Hutton's
'Triumph of the Moon' is to pick holes in it. Whitmore didn't attempt to
present his own version of a history of modern Pagan Witchcraft because, as
he said himself, it was too much work.

See the freely available article by Hutton here, where he answers Whitmore:
" <http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/article/view/10684> Writing the
History of Witchcraft: A Personal View", and Peg Aloi's review of Whitmore's
book, also freely downloadable, "Review: The Trials of the Moon" here:

http://www.equinoxpub.com/index.php/POM/issue/current

And my interview with Hutton here, which is like an easier-to-read intro to
his article in The Pom.

http://necropolisnow.blogspot.com/2011/05/interview-with-professor-ronald-hu
tton.html

~Caroline.

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3b. Re: AAR in San Fran

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au grahfurn

Date: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:23 pm ((PST))

Yep I couldn't agree more Caroline - approaching the study of paganism from
both perspectives, as both objective scholar and practitioner, is a worthy
path that relatively few would tread I'd suggest. I am no expert by any
means, but I have to say that someone who greatly impresses me in this area
is Prof Ronald Hutton, particularly after I read his book The Triumph of the
Moon. However, I understand that even this seemingly very well researched
and unbiased work has attracted some criticism and controversyfrom various
parties - so I guess no matter what one might produce, there will always be
others who will counter it - but that's the nature of the subject I
suppose... a potential minefield of differing interpretations of historical
finds, mythology, traditions, lineages, etc. All compounded by the deeply
personal and spiritual nature of the topic - so I definitely wish you well
with your work and hope you won't be deterred by such things.

Also, I think that unfortunately, because much of the ancient knowledge and
wisdom was so culturally diverse, largely passed down through word of mouth,
and even repressed in more recent times, there will always be a great deal
that we will never know. But that may not be such a bad thing, as it will
ensure that the element of mystery remains - waiting for new followers to
re-discover, interpret, develop and pass on the mystical experience in their
own way, leading to neo-paganism being an adaptive path - which is one of
its greatest strengths I'd suggest - something that the so-called "book
religions" struggle greatly with.

Once more many thanks for all of the interesting posts you regularly
provide, which are always read and appreciated :)

Blessings and best wishes, Graham.

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