Messages In This Digest (4 Messages)
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- Re: Love Spells From: mohammed toh
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- The Ethics Of Love Spells - One Article From: Silver Fox
- 3a.
- Do Love Spells Work? From: Silver Fox
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- The Ethics Of Love Spells - Another view From: Silver Fox
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Re: Love Spells
Posted by: "mohammed toh" mohammedtoh@yahoo.com mohammedtoh
Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:16 am (PST)
please i have i way our for your problem.
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From: jessica balding <beautishianlove@yahoo.co. >uk
Subject: Re: [Earthwise] Love Spells
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 12:19 PM
Create one!
Firstly think of the intension. Check your correspondances for what you want,
and create some words like-
'Divorce is my current state,
In love and light my soul won't break,
Goddess/God, I humbly ask of thee,
To release my pain and set anger free.'
Choose a Goddess that deals with divorce-ie= Maat (Justice), Epona (healing), Lakshmi (good fortune & beauty), or you could go by Mythology-Hera had to endure her husband's many affairs.
Obviously I don't know what's happened or what your going through. But here are a few more incantations/invokations; incase they help-
'Maat I ask Justice,
As I think of (Husband's name), may he think of this;
All the pain he's put/putting me through,
So what is right, I ask of you!'
'Epona, Goddess upon your horse,
Find me well, whilst on your course,
hold my pain, and remove it from me,
So I can now be set free'.
'Lakshmi, Goddess I embue,
This I do ask of you,
Show me my light, my inner beauty,
Now and for all to see,
Gracious goddess born of the sea.'
'Hera, please hear my words,
Cut the pain and cut the cords,
Help and guide me whilst I must endure,
To reach a much calmer shore'.
'All around me is unsure,
Roses-beauty, I implore;
Show me my strength upon the new moon,
Healing, loving, energy soon.'
'In flame, I banish the pain,
Removed from me, is years of rain-
Heavy, dark and dessolate.
A new birth, is what i'm worth,
In flame, I banish the pain. I banish the pain, I banish the pain.'
'Courage, beauty, strength I need,
Love and Light-I will succeed.
Instead of hurt, I plant the seed;
Of faith, and grace and the wiccan reed'.
Hope this helps. Sorry about your current situation! The worst part of love, is the pain it brings. Know that you can always turn to the Goddess/God.
"Oh, Goat-foot god of Arcady!
The modern world hath need of thee!"
-Oscar Wilde.
=Jess )0(
--- On Thu, 10/2/11, alexiamoon <suttonmm@hotmail.com > wrote:
From: alexiamoon <suttonmm@hotmail.com >
Subject: [Earthwise] Love Spells
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, 10 February, 2011, 16:15
I am going through a Divorce from a 14 year marriage. Does anyone know a spell that will help me get back myself and make me "whole" again?
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The Ethics Of Love Spells - One Article
Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com trickster9993
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:22 am (PST)
The Ethics Of Love Spells
By Mike Nichols
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ bos/bos122. htm
To gain the love of someone: On a night of the full moon, walk to a spot beneath your beloved's bedroom window, and whisper his/her name three times to the night wind.
Ozark love spell
It seems to be an immutable law of nature. You are interviewed by a local radio or TV station, or in some local newspaper. The topic of the interview is Witchcraft or Paganism, and you spend the better part of an hour brilliantly articulating your beliefs, your devotion to Goddess and nature, the difference between Witchcraft and Satanism, and generally enlightening the public at large. The next day, you are
flooded with calls. Is it people complimenting you on such a splendid interview? No.
People wanting to find out more about the religion of Wicca? Huh-uh. People who are even vaguely interested in what you had to say??? Nope.
Who is it? Its people asking you to do a love spell for them! This used to drive me nuts. I'd take a deep breath and patiently explain (for the thousandth time) why I won't even do love spells for myself, let alone anyone else. This generally resulted in my caller becoming either angry or defensive, but seldom more enlightened. 'But don't you DO magic?' they ask. 'Only occasionally,' I answer. 'And aren't most magic spells
love spells?' they persist. That was the line I really hated, because I knew they were right! At least, if you look at the table of contents of most books on magic, you'll find more love spells than any other kind. This seems as true for the medieval grimoire as for the modern drugstore paperback.
Why? Why so many books containing so many love spells? Why such an emphasis on a kind of magic that I, personally, have always considered very negative? And to make matters even more confusing, the books that do take the trouble of dividing spells
between 'positive' and 'negative' magic invariably list love spells under the first heading. After all, they would argue, love is a good thing. There can never be too much of it. Therefore, any spell that brings about love must be a GOOD spell. Never mind that the spell puts a straightjacket on another's free will, and then drops it in cement for good measure.
And that is why I had always assumed love magic to be negative magic. Years ago, one of the first things I learned as a novice Witch was something called the Witch's Rede, a kind of 'golden rule' in traditional Witchcraft. It states, 'An it harm none, do what thou will.' One uses this rede as a kind of ethical litmus test for a spell. If the spell brings harm to someone -- anyone (including yourself!) -- then don't do it!
Unfortunately, this rule contains a loophole big enough to fly a broom through. It's commonly expressed, 'Oh, this won't HARM them; it's really for their own good.' When you hear someone say that, take cover, because something especially nasty is about to happen.
That's why I had to develop my own version of the Witch's Rede. Mine says that if a spell harms anyone, OR LIMITS THEIR FREEDOM OF THOUGHT OR ACTION IN ANY WAY, then consider it negative, and don't do it. Pretty strict, you say? Perhaps. But there's another law in Witchcraft called the Law of Threefold Return. This says that whatever power you send out, eventually comes back to you three times more powerful. So I take no chances. And love spells, of the typical make-Bobby-love-me type, definitely have an impact on another's free
will.
So why are they so common? It's taken me years to make peace with this, but I think I finally understand. The plain truth is that most of us NEED love. Without it, our lives are empty and miserable. After our basic survival needs have been met, we must have affection and companionship for a full life. And if it will not come of its own accord, some of us may be tempted to FORCE it to come. And nothing can be as painful as loving someone who doesn't love you back. Consequently, the most common, garden-variety spell in the world is the love spell.
Is there ever a way to do a love spell and yet stay within the parameters of the Witch's Rede? Possibly. Some teachers have argued that if a spell doesn't attempt to attract a
SPECIFIC person into your life, but rather attempts to attract the RIGHT person, whomever that may be, then it is not negative magic. Even so, one should make sure that the spell finds people who are 'right' for each other -- so that neither is harmed, and both are made happy.
Is there ever an excuse for the make-Bobby-love-me type of spell? Without endorsing this viewpoint, I must admit that the most cogent argument in its favor is the following: Whenever you fall in love with someone, you do everything in your power to
impress them. You dress nicer, are more attentive, witty, and charming. And at the same time, you unconsciously set in motion some very powerful psychic forces. If you've ever walked into a room where someone has a crush on you, you know what I mean. You can FEEL it. Proponents of this school say that a love spell only takes the forces that are ALREADY there -- MUST be there if you're in love -- and channels them more efficiently. But the energy would be there just the same, whether or not you use a spell to focus it.
I won't attempt to decide this one for you. People must arrive at their own set of ethics through their own considerations. However, I would call to your attention all the
cautionary tales in folk magic about love spells gone awry. Also, if a love spell has been employed to join two people who are not naturally compatible, then one must keep pumping energy into the spell. And when one finally tires of this (and one will,
because it is hard work!) then the spell will unravel amidst an emotional and psychic hurricane that will make the stormiest divorces seem calm by comparison. Not a pretty picture.
It should be noted that many spells that pass themselves off as love spells are, in reality, sex spells. Not that there's anything surprising in that, since our most basic needs usually include sex. But I think we should be clear from the outset what kind of spell it is. And the same ethical standards used for love spells can often be applied to sex spells.
Last year, the very quotable Isaac Bone wits, author of 'Real Magic', taught a sex magic class here at the Magick Lantern, and he tossed out the following rule of thumb: Decide what the mundane equivalent of your spell would be, and ask yourself if you
could be arrested for it. For example, some spells are like sending a letter to your beloved in the mail, whereas other spells are tantamount to abduction. The former is perfectly legal and normal, whereas the latter is felonious.
One mitigating factor in your decisions may be the particular tradition of magic you follow. For example, I've often noticed that practitioners of Voudoun (Voodoo) and Santeria seem much more focused on the wants and needs of day-to-day living than
on the abstruse ethical considerations we've been examining here. That's not a value judgment -- just an observation. For example, most followers of Wicca STILL don't know how to react when a Santeria priest spills the blood of a chicken
during a ritual -- other than to feel pretty queasy. The ethics of one culture is not always the same as another.
And speaking of cultural traditions, another consideration is how a culture views love and sex. It has often been pointed out that in our predominant culture; love and sex are seen in very possessive terms, where the beloved is regarded as one's personal property. If the spell uses this approach, treating a person as an object, jealously attempting to cut off all other relationships, then the ethics are seriously in doubt. However, if the spell takes a more open approach to love and sex, not attempting to limit a person's other relationships in any way, then perhaps it is more defensible. Perhaps. Still, it might be wise to ask, Is this the kind of spell I'd want someone to cast on me?
Love spells. Whether to do them or not. If you area practitioner of magic, I dare say you will one day be faced with the choice. If you haven't yet, it is only a matter of time. And if the answer is yes, then which spells are ethical and which aren't? Then you, and only you, will have to decide whether 'All's fair in love and war', or whether there are other, higher, metaphysical considerations.
Silver Fox
"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller
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Do Love Spells Work?
Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com trickster9993
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:23 am (PST)
Do Love Spells Work?
By Doug Brinlee
When it comes to the belief in modern day magic and spells, there are two camps; the believers and the skeptics. The skeptics do not believe in the hocus pocus and practices of today's pagans and witches. In turn, the pagans and witches accept magic as readily as we accept the belief that gas prices will be higher in another month.
Spells for love, success, luck, and a number of others that are beneficial are still performed by witches, although they claim to be white witches and their spells are harmless. Love spells are as popular as ever and are some of the easier spells one can cast. Beginners can do it or you can pay a professional witch to do it for you. But do love spells really work? Or are they just as the skeptics claim; a lot of mumbo-jumbo? If you are seeking love and you want some additional help in that department, here is some information you might find helpful before you get your chalk and candles.
What Love Spells Don't Do
The days of spells that specifically target a person to bind them to the spellcaster's will are over. Or they may still exist only in the latest online rpg. Today's spells do not twist another's willpower and freedom. They do not put the target in a trance or force them to do anything that would normally be against their better judgment.
So love spells do not target individuals. That would be in violation of one of the rules in witch etiquette. The rule states: Do not bind another being unless you are willing to be bound. So you cannot use a spell to get that hot guy in the office next to you to fall in love with you.
Why Love Spells Don't Work
Even witches and magic practitioners agree that spells do not always work. Sometimes they may not work they way that you want them to. One of the main reasons that spells don't work is because of belief. Do you really believe in magic? Belief is very important for anything to work. If you have to do a project at work, it is much harder if you do not believe that you can do it. If you are playing a round of golf and you do not believe that you are very good, you will likely play a lousy game. Belief is essential if you want something to work.
So let's say that you do believe in magic or are at least willing to give it a shot. Why won't a spell work? It could be several things. One of them is concentration. It takes practice and experience to attain the level of concentration needed to enable a spell to work. Spells have to have energy built up in them and then released at just the right time. If you do not have the proper frame of mind, you can't do it.
Motivation is another cause for love spells not working. You need to do some deep inner thinking before casting a love spell. Ask yourself why you are casting it. Are you seeking to hurt someone else? Are you trying to bind someone to you? Or is it truly to find love? Only when your motivation is true will the spell succeed. Selfish, greedy, or hurtful motivations are counter-productive to love spells and are a sure-fire way to get them to fail.
Timing and energy are other reasons for the failure of a love spell. Cycles of the moon play a big factor in practicing magic, particularly love spells. When the moon is waning, it is at its least power which means there is less power to draw on for the spell. If you want to cast a powerful love spell, you should wait until the moon if full and at its peak.
In love spells, part of the energy also comes from within you. You need to feel vibrant and full of energy when casting love spells. If you are sick, tired, or just don't feel like you have much energy, then the spell will be a very weak one (if it works at all).
Why Love Spells Work
Practitioners of magic swear that if done properly using positive energy, love spells do work. When the witch or caster has enough energy, the moon is in the right phase, and their motivation is good, the spell has a likely chance of success.
One thing to help a love spell is to make a list of what type of person you are looking for. Without naming a specific someone, give details with pros and cons, likes and dislikes. This narrows down the focus of the spell and allows the energy to find someone that matches what you are looking for.
Now if you do not really believe in magic but are seeking love and willing to give it a shot, there are some things you need to keep in mind. The first is that love comes naturally. Everyone, at some point in their life, will likely find love. But first you have to love yourself. If you do not like yourself, this creates negative energy that disrupts what you are trying to accomplish.
Witches say that love spells work for those who really want to find love. If you are just messing around, you won't get the best results. But if you are really sincere about finding love, and think about how much you want it when you cast the spell, then it will likely be successful.
Lastly, you need to prepare yourself for love. This means that you have to do some of the work. You can't expect a spell to do everything. Clean yourself up some. Pay attention to your appearance. Buy some new clothes that will catch someone's attention. If your hair is a mess, go get it styled. Start wearing a different perfume. If you want to have people over to your place, make sure it is clean so it will impress them. It is hard to find a soulmate if you live in a dump. Do yourself a favor and get yourself together in order to make the love spell work easier.
Silver Fox
"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller
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The Ethics Of Love Spells - Another view
Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com trickster9993
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:24 am (PST)
The Ethics Of Love Spells
By Rhowan
Sigh....this phrase will raise many a hair on us Witches. Too many people today seem to think that there is a "quick fix" for every situation life throws us. Truth is, there isn't. Not even for a Witch. Just as there are rules to live by in everyday life, there are rules to live by in spellcasting. Placing a love spell on another person, is morally wrong, and a Witch willnot aid anyone in doing so. Why is it so wrong?? Well, it infringes upon anothers' right tofree will. (This is the part where I picture a bunch of stupified love struck zombies roaming around........not a pretty picture). See, love comes from within, and when another is forced to feel such an emotion, you are basically getting a shell of that person....the love given to the love spellcaster, is empty, and void of the REAL emotion that WOULD be felt, if the love were given freely, and not by force.
It has been my experience, that the majority of those who request a love spell, are feeling insecure, or have a low self-esteem. We all go through these feelings at some time in our lives. But, snagging the most popular guy or gal in school, for example, won't help these feelings go away, many times, they only amplify these negative feelings. (Imagine this person doesn't call on time....how would that make an already insecure person feel??)
So, giving a love spell to someone is also ethically wrong for the Witch, since, he or she isn't helping the seeker, but could, in fact, be harming the seeker!
Remember, Witches also have a code of rules that they follow. Wiccan Witches follow the Rede...which says, "An' it harm none, do as thou wilt". Many NON Wiccan Witches also follow a set of rules, that basically say the same thing. Whatever the tradition a Witch is part of....a Witch harms no one. Including, him or herself. Handing out a spell can, and does affect the Witch. It's called, Karma.....or, "whatever goes around, comes around".
A Witch doesn't take this lightly, and spells aren't used as a means to get what we want, whenever we want it. Love is a very precious gift, and should a Witch help another to steal away that gift, you can bet that he or she will feel Karmas' repercussions. Imagine, for a moment, that a seeker of a love spell, is given that love spell. They use it to force anothers' will, thereby, stealing away the persons gift of love....only to cause harm, not only to the caster....but to the intended receiver of their gift! And, what if, amidst all the torn off paper of the gift, the caster fails to see a third person.....their own bearer of a gift....their one TRUE love?? Suddenly, not one person is affected by this spell......but at least FIVE people have been affected!! The caster of the spell, the castee of the spell, the intended of the castee, the intended of the caster, and......the Witch. (That's ALOT of harm done!)
Now, with all that negative stuff said about Love Spells.....there IS a way that a Love spell CAN be cast, without harming anyone, and without involving bad Karma. It is simple, really.
Cast a love spell on YOURSELF.....not on another person! Loving yourself, ultimately works to allow others to feel love for you! It may not invite love from any one person...but, may allow you to pick and choose the one that IS right for you. Life is funny like that, once we are able to really love ourselves, and feel good about who we are, people tend to flock in our direction. Our inner beauty shines through like a welcoming beacon.....and, believe me, people respond!! And, you know what else? You'll be able to sleep good at night, knowing that you ARE loved, and that once you find your true love, it is REAL. It won't be a spell they love, you won't have a "shell" of a person....and you will know that you haven't committed the spiritual equivalent of rape, and invited bad Karma to rear it's ugly head at you!
As I said earlier, spells are not a "quick fix"....and, a love spell for yourself, isn't an easy thing to do...it takes patience, practice, and perseverance to overcome the negative baggage we all carry with us. But, give yourself time, and it CAN be overcome. With that said, I have included with this article, a sample of a spell that anyone can do. It's more of a ritual than a spell because it takes more than one time to do it, and it takes a dedication to yourself.
Silver Fox
"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller
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