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1a.: Re: Tanya Luhrmann's recent blog post From: ozpagan

2a.: Re: The Ethnographer and the Magicians From: john colley

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1a.: Re: Tanya Luhrmann's recent blog post

Posted by: "ozpagan" ozpagan@ozpagan.com wwwozpagancom

Fri Nov 4, 2011 6:36 pm (PDT)

Hi Caroline,
I read with interest this blog and have read Tanya Luhrman's book. I was a little surprised by her almost naive conclusions about the psychic dimension, (or perhaps her self doubt), but was nevertheless impressed by her personal story and openness to trying some the magickal techniques.
I note she mentions a psychology background, but perhaps this didn't include Jungian studies, something that might have assisted her understanding. I often recommend Jung's prima on experiences of the psychic reality with his wonderful book "Memories, dreams, reflections".

vinum sabbati,
Tim

On 04/11/2011, at 2:34 PM, "Caroline Tully" <heliade@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Interesting blog post by anthropologist, Tanya Luhrman, author of
> Persuasions of the Witch's Craft, one of the first ethnographies of modern
> Witches and Magicians (and which was controversial as the people studied
> didn't feel fairly represented). This is a reasonably positive post though,
> and interesting.
>
> http://freq.uenci.es/2011/10/27/magic/
>
> ~Caroline.
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2a.: Re: The Ethnographer and the Magicians

Posted by: "john colley" Helliconia54@yahoo.com.au helliconia54

Fri Nov 4, 2011 11:44 pm (PDT)

Sounds like creating an egregore,or a god.Give it enough energy and it takes on a "life" of its own.

"There is magic in the feel of a paddle and the movement of a canoe, a magic compounded of distance, adventure, solitude, and peace."
-Sigurd Olson

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From: Graham <grahfurn@yahoo.com.au>
To: "WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com" <WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 9:43 PM
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: The Ethnographer and the Magicians

Thanks again Caroline for these added references.
You know I was just re-reading Tanya Luhrmann's blog on Magic, and her vision of the six druids one morning after reading the book on Celtic Britain made me think of the phenomenon of Tibetan tulpas or "thought forms"... I have a book here called "Tibetan Magic and Mysticism" by J.H. Brennan, where it discusses tulpas...

"The Tibetan method of tulpa creation is easy to explain, but difficult to put into practice... You practice the visualization of an entity until it becomes a waking hallucination, then intensify the visualization until the "hallucination" can be seen by other people. It is advisable to begin by imagining inanimate objects, like a box or a flower, then working up to living creatures."

Makes me wonder if any academics have looked at that topic? I see on Wikipedia there was a book written about this kind of thing way back in 1901, called "Thought Forms" by Annie Besant and C.W. Leadbeater:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Forms

Also, I just found a free online edition of that book <gotta love the internet!>. Here's the link:
http://www.anandgholap.net/Thought_Forms-AB_CWL.htm

There goes the weekend! :)

BB, Graham.

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From: Caroline Tully <heliade@bigpond.com>
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 6:19 PM
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] The Ethnographer and the Magicians

More interesting discussion of Tanya Luhrman's work (and other things) here:

<http://blog.chasclifton.com/?p=3384> The Ethnographer and the Magicians

http://blog.chasclifton.com/

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