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Re: Thanks - Re: Now this, my friends, is how it's done!

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au   grahfurn

Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:25 am (PST)



Greetings CB

Yes I agree - the architectural decline does seem to have gone hand in hand with the rise of economic rationalism. However, fortunately there are still examples where little expense has been spared to create the sacred. This makes me think of an excellent documentary that I caught on the tv a few months ago <turned over to it after it had commenced, and started recording it after it got about half way through - when I realized what an amazing story was being told!>. The program was on ABC 2 and was called "Stairway to Heaven". I just did a web search and found the following link to a review of the documentary:

http://www.throng.com.au/documentary/stairway-heaven

The documentary tells the story of the re-creation of an amazing sacred Islamic artifact, the Minibar of Saladin, a preaching pulpit that also represented a symbolic stairway to the heavens, which was originally created some 900 years ago from hundreds of individual pieces of timber, all perfectly fitted and interlocking without glue to form the stairway, plus a myriad of sacred geometrical patterns within. Sacred geometry is considered to be a profound expression of a higher universal order by the followers of Islam - which mind you, I am no expert on, but I imagine that there is, like with many religions, a mystical component to the practice of this religion, or its offshoots <e.g. Sufism?>, where such things would be expanded upon greatly.

This priceless artifact was destroyed by fire by a crazed Christian fundamentalist in 1969. Fortunately some photographs of the structure remained, from which its reconstruction could be based. Many of the required craft skills required recreate the Minibar had been lost over the years, however fortunately they were still to be found in a few. Also, the entire project would not have been possible if not for royal sponsorship <just like in the old days> - so no economic rationalism there! It took 30 years to recreate the minibar. The documentary is well worth a look if it screens on the tv again. Also, here's a link to a book about it:

http://www.thamesandhudsonusa.com/new/fall08/523843.htm

Might have to look for that book next time I go a browsing :)
Brightest blessings, Graham.

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From: carteblanche13 <carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Thanks - Re: Now this, my friends, is how it's done!
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 4:27 AM

 

I couldn't agree more, Graham, and the date I think we're after is 1945.

That isn't to say that there is no merit in post-WWII architectural styles per se, or futuristic visions of what can now be achieved on a purely engineering level which in the past were impossible; but the problem is similar to that which afflicts everything these days.

The bottom line today is often economic, not spiritual; and temporal, not eternal (although obviously economic considerations always weighed in).

"God" may in actual fact be literally "in the detail" - which perhaps explains why minimalist functionalism is the lingua franca of modern architecture: it is mostly built to satisfy the demands of an ostensibly godless worldview - that of materialistic capitalism.

As a result, the Dollar has perhaps been the basic blueprint of a great many post-industrial buildings, perhaps most; even the most impressive have been simply expressing a type of mere vulgar financial power, rather than depth or refinement of taste as lavish buildings tended to in the past (going way, way, way, way back).

So inspirational then to see the founder of Damanhur was a stockbroker - reversing the trend somewhat! But then, the Medici were bankers, weren't they. Seems to be an Italian thing perhaps...

Best regards

C.B.

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Thanks - Re: Now this, my friends, is how it's done!

Posted by: "carteblanche13" carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au   carteblanche13

Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:43 am (PST)





--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, Graham <grahfurn@...> wrote:
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> Greetings CB
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> Yes I agree - the architectural decline does seem to have gone hand in hand with the rise of economic rationalism. However, fortunately there are still examples where little expense has been spared to create the sacred. This makes me think of an excellent documentary that I caught on the tv a few months ago <turned over to it after it had commenced, and started recording it after it got about half way through - when I realized what an amazing story was being told!>. The program was on ABC 2 and was called "Stairway to Heaven". I just did a web search and found the following link to a review of the documentary:
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Dear Graham,

Wow. I remember hearing about this Stairway ages ago but only in passing and never followed it up. This is why the Romans built in marble, and why so much stuff of theirs is still around! Their neighbours and early victims, the Etruscans, built almost entirely in wood (as did the Celts and other Northerners, which is why nothing is left - all cinders...can you imagine? Rivendell, anyone?! lol). Thanks for this info -- I look forward to spending more time in looking at it.

Regarding Sufism it is my understanding that Sufism is, rather than being "an offshoot of Islam", instead a remnant of pre-Islamic Gnosticsim of a sort, which managed to incorporate Islam (the typical exoteric orthodoxy) into itself in order to survive. The fact that Sufi saints were executed as heretics (cf. Mansur Al-Hallaj) points in this direction as well.

> This priceless artifact was destroyed by fire by a crazed Christian fundamentalist in 1969.

The designation "crazed" is super-erogatory if you have already called them "fundamentalist Christian", but I see your point! :-)

> Fortunately some photographs of the structure remained, from which its reconstruction could be based. Many of the required craft skills required recreate the Minibar had been lost over the years,

Let me say how enjoyable I find the name of this thing: "Minibar".

I have but only occasionally found actual Minibars in your average hotel room to be stairways to heaven of the Dionysian kind, purgatory occurs on check-out day when the bill is presented!

> however fortunately they were still to be found in a few. Also, the entire project would not have been possible if not for royal sponsorship <just like in the old days> - so no economic rationalism there!

Quite. This is one of the reasons why I am a staunch monarchist. Only the inhabitants of a worldview where "symbol" is literally EVERYTHING can such things occur.

> It took 30 years to recreate the minibar. The documentary is well worth a look if it screens on the tv again. Also, here's a link to a book about it:
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> Brightest blessings, Graham.

Many thanks for all the interesting and helpful links and info Graham.

C.B.

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BBC Documentary on Austin Osman Spare

Posted by: "carteblanche13" carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au   carteblanche13

Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:41 am (PST)



Some superb commentary by Alan Moore, Geraldine Beskine and others - and lavish examples of the incredible magic and art produced by AOS which was recently on show in the Cuming museum in London (somehow I can't see the National Gallery hosting a tour in the near future . . . but who knows?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOt215GCWI

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Re: BBC Documentary on Austin Osman Spare

Posted by: "Graham" grahfurn@yahoo.com.au   grahfurn

Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:25 pm (PST)



Many thanks for posting this CB - excellent!
For those further interested in the works of this amazing artist, philosopher, occult magician and formulator of "Chaos Magic", here's a web link to a very good biography:

http://www.controverscial.com/Austin%20Osman%20Spare.htm

Blessings and best wishes, Graham.

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From: carteblanche13 <carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] BBC Documentary on Austin Osman Spare
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 28 November, 2010, 5:41 AM

 

Some superb commentary by Alan Moore, Geraldine Beskine and others - and lavish examples of the incredible magic and art produced by AOS which was recently on show in the Cuming museum in London (somehow I can't see the National Gallery hosting a tour in the near future . . . but who knows?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOt215GCWI

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Geelong Pagans at the Pub, 12/5/2010, 1:00 pm

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Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:59 pm (PST)



Reminder from: WitchesWorkshop Yahoo! Group
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Geelong Pagans at the Pub
Sunday December 5, 2010
1:00 pm - 5:00 pm
(This event repeats every month on the first Sunday.)

Notes:
Meet at the front bar for an afternoon of laid-back conversation with friendly pagan folk.

Irish Murphy's serves good meals at decent prices, and has Guinness and Kilkenny on tap!

Contact Ryan on 0423 537 278 or artistryankendal@hotmail.com

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Shamanic Circle - Wollongong, 12/6/2010, 7:00 pm

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Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:10 am (PST)



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Shamanic Circle - Wollongong
Monday December 6, 2010
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
(This event repeats every month on the first Monday.)
Location: Central Wollongong, NSW

Notes:
Shamans around the world come together in groups to perform healings, to journey and to create a community that is filled with support for all within it. We have set up this group to explore Shamanic ritual, drumming, dancing your power animal, power retrivals, energy and the light body and much, much more.

No shamanic experience is required, in fact no healing experience of any kind is necessary to reap the benefits of being part of a community event like this.

This circle meets every 1st Monday of the month from 7pm and all are welcome. The cost is $15 and refreshments are included :)

Call Alison or Megan on 042 020 8879 / 042 038 1436 or visit www.shamanicspirit.com.au for more information.

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Launceston Pub Moots, 11/30/2010, 7:00 pm

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Launceston Pub Moots
Tuesday November 30, 2010
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
(This event repeats every month on the last Tuesday.)
Location: Cock & Bull British Pub, corner Wellington & Elizabeth Sts, Launceston

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LAUNCESTON PAGANS IN THE PUB!

We are proud to announce that the Launceston Pub Moots are back!!

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When: Last Tuesday of every month

Where: Cock & Bull British Pub, corner Wellington & Elizabeth Sts, Launceston

Table is booked under 'Rose & Jess', upstairs

Time: 7.00pm onwards

To celebrate our first moot we will be having a lucky pagan door prize!!!

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If you want to get together with Pagans in your area, for friendly chats, event discussion, forum questions, and to catch up with like-minded folk, we'd love to see you there.

Come for a lovely meal or just a coffee – and bring a friend!

Please RSVP to myself Rose (rosiesgrove@gmail.com) or Jess (jess@tascommodores.com) for the purpose of booking a table.

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