joi, 21 octombrie 2010

[Earthwise] Digest Number 2443

Messages In This Digest (13 Messages)

1a.
Scary House From: Susan Bartels
1b.
Re: Scary House From: Jennifer Smith
2.
Autumn Healing Spell From: Silver Fox
3.
Black Cats Folklore From: Silver Fox
4.
Bonfires, Fireworks, And Halloween Processions From: Silver Fox
5.
Button Divination From: Silver Fox
6.
Being the Messenger From: holly@ravenmadness.com
7a.
Re: Hello everyone From: karla mata
8.1.
Re: looking for a teacher. From: karla mata
8.2.
Re: looking for a teacher. From: karla mata
8.3.
Re: looking for a teacher. From: karla mata
9a.
Re: Are You Superstitious About Black Cats? From: Leigh Anne
10.
(no subject) From: Leigh Miller

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1a.

Scary House

Posted by: "Susan Bartels" msamcast@hotmail.com   msamcast

Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:45 am (PDT)





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Re: Scary House

Posted by: "Jennifer Smith" jencastlesmith@att.net   jencastlesmith@att.net

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:12 pm (PDT)



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Subject: [Earthwise] Scary House

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Autumn Healing Spell

Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com   trickster9993

Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:17 am (PDT)




Autumn Healing Spell
by Silver Ravenwolf; Halloween

You can prepare this lovely spell container by working magick as a group, or as an individual working alone. You will need one dried, hollowed out gourd. Cut off the top. Place a picture of the person who needs healing energy in the gourd. If you already have a lot of magickal supplies (herbs, powders, oils, gems, etc.) sit quietly and think about the person.

Ask your patron God or Goddess (or totem animal/guardian angel) to lead you in the right direction for what should be included in the healing gourd. Fill the gourd with empowered items thinking about the health of the individual. Add a few things that will make noise if you shake the gourd. When you are finished, seal the gourd by gluing the top back on.

Paint the person's name on the gourd along with any magickal symbols or sigils that matches the individual's personality. If you don't have magickal supplies, you might want to get out your copy of Scott Cunningham's Encyclopedia of Herbs. Tie dried flowers, herbs, charms, and amulets to a rawhide cord or silk cord around the neck of the gourd. When you give the gourd as a gift, shake it while you hand it to the person to activate the magick.

Here are some of the items you can put in your gourds:

1. A picture of the person.
2. Rosemary - banishing negativity, healing. (dried)
3. Orange Peel - success. (dried)
4. Basil - helps herbs and items work in tandem.
5. One rose petal - love.
6. One penny (from each person working on the healing).
7. One cowry shell (clear vision.)
8. Cloves (protection).
9. Cinnamon (success).
10. Goddess statue or charm for each gourd.
11. Amber and jet beads for those who reached the rank of HPS.
12. Three drops of healing oil.
13. Three drops of success oil.
14. Three crystals.

You don't have to use these exact ingredients. They are only listed here to give you and idea of what can be used. A bit of Orris Root will help the herbs retain their aroma.

Silver Fox

"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller

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Black Cats Folklore

Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com   trickster9993

Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:17 am (PDT)




Black Cats Folklore
http://cats.about.com/od/catloreurbanlegends/a/blackcatlore.htm
From Franny Syufy

Witches' Familiars and Other Longtime Superstition About Black Cats

Black cats have played a major role for centuries in folklore, superstition, and mythology. Black cats in the middle ages were believed to be witches' familiars, and some people even believed them to be witches incarnate. Many of these old superstitions about black cats exist to this day.

Explore the mythology and lore about black cats, witches, and other beliefs that carry on in the 21st century, especially around Halloween.

Black Cats and Luck

Depending on one's area of the world (and the century one lived in), black cats portend either good or bad luck. Here are some examples, a couple of them quite involved, with some tongue-in-cheek asides.


In Asia and the U.K., a black cat is considered lucky.
In Yorkshire, England, it may be lucky to own a black cat, but it is unlucky have one cross your path.
To dream of a black cat is lucky.
On the other paw, seeing a black cat in your dream indicates that you are experiencing some fear in using your psychic abilities and believing in your intuition.

I wonder who makes up these things?


A funeral procession meeting up with a black cat is believed to forecast the death of another family member.
In 16th century Italy, people believed that if someone was sick he would die if a black cat lay on his bed.
In North America, it's considered bad luck if a black cat crosses your path and good luck if a white cat crosses your path. In the U.K., switch the colors, I guess unless you live in Yorkshire.
Finding a white hair on a black cat brings good luck. Don't pluck it though, or your luck may turn bad.
A strange black cat on a porch brings prosperity to the owner. (Scottish Lore)
A black cat seen from behind portends a bad omen. (And a black cat seen from the front is a GOOD omen?)
Ahhh...an explanation here: If a black cat walks towards you, it brings good fortune, but if it walks away, it takes the good luck with it.
If a black cat crosses your path while you're driving, turn your hat around backwards and mark an X on your windshield to prevent bad luck. Oh my, what if you aren't wearing a hat? Or you're not carrying a felt-tip pen or lipstick? Please, don't try this one at home!

Black Cats and Witches

Black cats have long been associated with witches and witchcraft to the extent that during October, the Month of Halloween, black cats and witches are favorite icons used for costumes, home decor, and party themes. This trend is so embedded in modern society that we've forgotten that the modern holiday we celebrate as Halloween has ancient beginnings as well as names:

Samhain

The religious year of Pagans starts and ends with Samhain, which is also known as "Witches New Year," according to Terri Paajanen, Pagan/Wiccan Guide. Samhaim, which is derived from the Gaelic word for "summer's end," is the third and last harvest celebrations of the year which Pagans observe, Terri goes on to explain.

All Hallows' Eve

Catholics celebrate the first of November as The Solemnity of All Saints, according to an excellent explanation of All Hallows' Eve by Jessica Steinmetz, Guide to Catholicism. October 31st is thereby designated as All Hallows' Eve (since the Saints celebrated on November 1st are considered hallowed.

Despite these religious beginnings of Halloween, old beliefs about black cats and witches still play a large part in this holiday.

Black Cats as Witches' Familiars


It was largely in the Middle Ages that the black cat became affiliated with evil. Because cats are nocturnal and roam at night, they were believed to be supernatural servants of witches, or even witches themselves...read more.
Folklore has it that if a witch becomes human, her black cat will no longer reside in her house.
Some believe that black cats are witches in disguise, or witches reborn.
Others believe black cats are witches familiars (beings that aid witches in performing their craft). Not all familiars were black cats though; some were cats of other colors, dogs, pigs, or other animals.
For several centuries "witches" were rounded up, tried, and killed by burning or other violent methods; often their familiars were killed along with them.

Silver Fox

"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller

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Bonfires, Fireworks, And Halloween Processions

Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com   trickster9993

Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:20 am (PDT)




Bonfires, Fireworks, And Halloween Processions
From Silver RavenWolf's book, Halloween, copyright 1999

Processions on Samhain/Halloween from Paeleopagam times until the present have been part of the norm. Humans also love to have parades for all sorts of things, from sporting and political events to religious functions. Why do people get in a line (or semblance of one) and march anywhere? Why do they dance in the streets? What is the purpose? We find the answer in the psychology of the group mind.

I never understood the emotional concept of the bonfire or the procession until I experienced them for myself on two separate occasions. Oh yes, I'd seen bonfires and been in a parade or two, but never one fashioned after our Paleopagan forebears. On the first occasion, I watched a Paleopagan reenactment complete with torches, costumed participants, drumming, and ritual dancing. With my mouth literally hanging open, I watched the dancers tease the cold wood with the torches, and I remember my awe as the flaming sticks ignited the wood in one fluid motion, sending a magnificent beast of sparks and fire roaring and clawing into the midnight sky. It was, to put it bluntly, a psychological rush.

On the second occasion, I had to leave a bonfire early. The path from this bonfire was long and winding, curling across the lip of a lake. Halfway back I happened to turn back and look across the still, black water. I felt as if I had been transported through time. Amazing. From a distance I watched the costumed dancers flit around the fire in a luminous oval, the sweat of their bodies glistening from heat and exhaustion. The drums rumbled, their Pagan beat echoing against the trees, lifting in a steady pulse to the star-knitted heavens. Occasionally a shout or peal of laughter bounced across the lake, the placid water catching the reflection of the flames. At that moment I knew exactly what the energy and emotion felt like around those ancient ritual fires. As a primal scream from one of those dancers struck my ears, I knew, too, the fear that the pious Christians must have felt as their eyes looked on such a strange scene, and the gut-craving reaction they experienced at the wild unknown of human abandonment. I wanted to go back, back into that cluster of stomping feet and wild revelry. I understood, too, why many people attend Native American powwows. There is an emotional bonding between the earth, the human, and the festivities, even if this bonding only lasts for a short time.

In European history, rhyming would take place during the hours of darkness, but during the hours of light, children and young adults were busily searching for the right materials for the home or community bonfire.

While the term Bonfire Night once referred to Halloween, Northern Ireland has moved it and created a national holiday that celebrates the victory of the Protestant William III over the Catholic James II at the Battle of the Boyne. In Britain, Bonfire Night refers to November 5, Guy Fawkes Night, commemorating the apprehension and subsequent execution of the men who attempted to blow up Parliament in 1605. Regardless, the ancient roots of the Samhain bonfire traveled through various cultures and landed in the amalgam of American tradition, where revelers watched the flames and shot their guns (according to my grandfather) in a Pennsylvania farming town in 1905.

Although not an American tradition, fireworks were very much in a part of Irish Halloween celebrations until the early 1970s, when the fireworks were banned due to the acceleration of terrorist activities. Up until that point, posters, cards, and other Halloween paraphernalia combined pictures of the traditional icons of ghosts and black cats with the colorful symbolism of fireworks.

Various historical records tell us of Halloween parades and processions throughout Europe beyond the Dark Ages, showing us that the Halloween parade survived, regardless of the hard-hitting practice of church officials and petty landowners. The Dundee Advertiser in 1871 reported on the Scottish festival held at Balmoral Castle, known as "The Queen's Halloween":

."...the people, both on the Balmoral and Abergeldie estates, turned out on Tuesday night, and formed a torchlight procession, which had a picturesque and imposing appearance. They were altogether from 180 to 200 torch-bearers; and her Majesty, with several members of the Royal family, viewed the scene with evident pleasure and satisfaction. Her Majesty remained for fully an hour an interested spectator of the proceedings. After the torch-bearers had promenaded for some time, the torches were heaped in a pile on the roadway a little to the west, and in full view from the windows of the Castle. Empty boxes and other materials were soon added and in a short time a splendid bonfire blazed famously, a gentle breeze helping to fan the flames.

Her Majesty, the Prince and Princess Louise, the Princess Beatrice and the ladies and gentlemen of the suite, then retired indoors, and took up positions at the windows to see the rest of the merry-making. Dancing was begun with a great vigor round the bonfire. The demonstration culminated in a vehicle containing a well got-up effigy of the Halloween woman being drawn to the fire by a band of sturdy Highlanders. The effigy had a number of boys for a guard of honour, headed by the piper, and in the rear came haer Majesty's yager, whose workmanship the effigy was. The fire was kept up for a long time with fresh fuel, and when all had danced till they could almost dance no longer, the health of her Majesty was proposed by the yager, and responded to with the utmost enthusiasm, accompanied by three times three rounds of vociferous cheering. The festivities ended with a ball in the castle sponsored by the Queen."

One of the grandest American Halloween masquerades occurs in the New York City Greenwich Village Halloween parade, where hundreds of thousands of people gather on New York's Seventh Avenue at dusk to watch the stream of Pagan icons meander through the village. Unlike more sophisticated community parades, there are no sponsors, no prizes, no grandstands, or local merchant vendor opportunities, yet, to the Big Apple residents, the celebration remains a constant delight. The parade began in the early 1970s as an exhibition of theater artist Ralph Lee's grotesque masks. Although Lee reportedly lost interest in the parade when it grew so large that no one noticed his masks anymore, it continues to attract approximately 100,000 marchers and 250,000 spectators annually. The Village Halloween Parade is different from other community processions because it makes no claim to respectability, virtue, or ethnic compartmentalism. It, is a word, just plain fun.

Silver Fox

"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller

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Button Divination

Posted by: "Silver Fox" silverfox_57@hotmail.com   trickster9993

Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:20 am (PDT)




Button Divination
From Llewellyns 2000 Magickal Almanac

Button-holing The Future - The first person you meet on Halloween/Samhain can give you a glimpse of the year to come. Just count the number of buttons they are wearing.

1 button means Luck
2 buttons mean Happiness
3 buttons mean A new vehicle
4 buttons mean Another form of transportation
5 buttons mean New clothes
6 buttons mean Accessories
7 buttons mean A new dog
8 buttons mean A new cat
9 buttons mean An unexpected pleasure
10 buttons mean Pleasure
11 buttons mean Extreme joy
12 buttons mean A treasure soon to be discovered

Silver Fox

"It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
Jane Yolen; The Storyteller

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Being the Messenger

Posted by: "holly@ravenmadness.com" holly@ravenmadness.com   hollyberrysheart

Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:27 am (PDT)



Let me answer the questions that have been wandering through your head..
How is it I come up with the things I have said?

How do you see what you see?
With the inner eyes that Spirit has given me.

How do you hear what can't be heard?
I quiet the noise and say not a word.

How does Spirit sound?
Like the wind, the rain, the sun, the moon and the ground.

How do you know these things are true?
I have faith, the question is, why don't you?

What's the key to help me see more?
Our mind is like a hallway of many doors...

No locks, even though closed they may be
Just reach out and turn the knob - that's the key!

Open them wide and release your fear
Soon, you'll see and even hear

Empty your heart of all anger and distrust
To walk this way, it is a must!

Let go, stop trying to control

Let yourself be guided, taken by the hand
Soon you'll be floating with Spirit across the land

Visions will fill the eyes you didn't know were there
It's not a secret... everyone has two pair!

Forget what you thought you knew
Just let it come to you.

And now with a smile and a wink, you know what to do
Blessings for the beginning of a whole new view!

Many Blessings,
Raventalker

www.ravenmadness.com

Blog: http://wordsofraven.blogspot.com/
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/raventalker

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7a.

Re: Hello everyone

Posted by: "karla mata" candy14955@yahoo.com   candy14955

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:10 pm (PDT)



hellow benjamin. i hope you find what you are looking for. blessed be.

________________________________
From: Benjamin Graham <saintben2000@yahoo.com>
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 11:29:55 AM
Subject: [Earthwise] Hello everyone

 
My name is Benjamin. I love earth spirituality. I am on a journey of self
discovery and self expression. May the fairies help us all on our way.

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8.1.

Re: looking for a teacher.

Posted by: "karla mata" candy14955@yahoo.com   candy14955

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:11 pm (PDT)



thank you for your beliefs. they help people stand up when they have fallen
down. thank you.

________________________________
From: Genevieve <genny.macbride@live.com>
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 6:56:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.

 
More clarity : Pagans can also be Buddhists, Hindus, etc.
Some Wiccans are Christians and call themselves Christian Witches or Christian
Wiccans and follow the Essene and Gnostic Gospels. I am not a Christian, but I
get a monthly newletter from www.wicca.com and administrator and group member of
wicca.com who writes it is a 'Christian Witch'. In the Essene writings, one
thing they record the teacher and healer, Jeshua, as saying was, "Love your
Father in heaven and your Mother the earth." So the terms Pagan, Heathen and
Heritic were also applied by the Catholic political machine to those who were
followers of the Christ in the unadulterated, uncontaminated Essene gospels, who
are Christians (Latin for 'of Christ'). It was the Pagan Roman government who
first used this term. The followers of Christ adopted it because they liked it.
Wicca is from the Gaelic stem word 'Wic' meaning to shape or to bend as in
wicker (bend and woven willow branch)furniture,etc. Wicca is the term generally
used for our 'religion' because it is flexible, bendable, and can be woven by
the individual according to their individual path to fill their personal need to
connect with Spirit in a more personal way than dogma can provide. I would also
like to point out that too many Wiccans have turned some writings by Crowley,
Garder, and many others into dogma and try to shove it down every Wiccan throat
as if it were a hard and fast rule that one must believe in to be Wiccan. We
have to be careful of this also. Wicca is a label that does not mean the same
thing to all Wiccans. It is a generality. Wicca is ever evolving. A person can
'worship' with a focus on Love, Peace, Community, etc. and not Diety while still
recognizing Spirit Energy within all. Some Wiccans are atheists, too. I've known
a couple who were.

--- In EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gallagher <loc59ghc4life@...>
wrote:
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> wiccans and pagans go hand in hand i study wicca and paganism together
>
> --- On Thu, 10/7/10, karla mata <candy14955@...> wrote:
>
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> From: karla mata <candy14955@...>
> Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.
> To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 7, 2010, 2:43 PM
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> i'm actually reading wiccan books. not pagan. i'm sorry but i don't approve of
>you trying to lead me away from my beliefs.
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> From: Moloch <moloch@...>
> To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 8:47:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.
>
>  
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> >my first question is on religouse tolerance. should a witch tolerate the
>bible? it says to not be a witch and to stay away from witches. and to kill
>witches and not let them live. should i be tolerant of this?<
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> Hi Karla. My answer to that is learn your history about Witchcraft first and
>no I'm not talking about history as written by Ll-ewe-llyn authors either;
>rather learn from non-pagan books. Why? Pagan authors are just as bad as
>Christian authors in that they make up stuff that's not true or they stretch the
>truth a bit much. For example: more than one Pagan author has used the 9 million
>persecute & killed during the Inquisition for Witchcraft.
>
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> Baloney!
>
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> Accurate Fact #1: More people who persecuted & killed for heresy than
>Witchcraft during the Inquisition
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> Accurate Fact #2: The numbers may have been in the hundreds of thousands or
>maybe a million or so but there is no evidence to support the claim of 9
>million.
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> If you want to make a point about killings in the name of Jesus, why not use
>the 4,000+ beheadings of Anglo-Saxon leaders who were murdered by the good
>christian king Charlegmagne in 784 c.e., for refusal to give up their pagan ways
>& accept Jesus. Some accounts say it was 4,800, some say it was 4,500 but I
>generally use 4,000+ to be safe. This was called: "Bloody Verdict of Verden or
>Massacre of Verden".
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>
> In all fairness, some scholars claim there is no archeological evidence to
>support such an event occurred. Some have suggested that these A-S leaders were
>taken by their clans & buried along with their kin instead of assuming there'd
>be some sort of mass grave. The following from Wikipedia gives some interesting
>info about beheadings during this time period:
>
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> The following is from Wikipedia: "On the issue of beheading the historian
>Ramsay MacMullen notes that in 681 a council of bishops at Toledo called on
>civil authorities to seize and behead all those guilty of non-Christian
>practices of whatever sort.  These massacres were common on both sides
>throughout the Christianization of Europe, with similar events involving pagan
>Saxons, Germans and Celts and Christians documented in Britain and Ireland."
>(Ramsay MacMullen, Christianity & Paganism in the Fourth to Eighth Centuries,
>Chap 1:16,"Persecution", ISBN 0-300-07148-5)
>
>
> That alone is horrid. Murder... be-headings... christianity. I mean what would
>Jesus think? I'm certain he'd be flat out shocked. Such atrocities are never
>intended to glorify Jesus but rather glorify the maniac(s) who ordered the
>killings in the first place.
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> Learn to use history to your advantage. Stay away from Llewllyn Pagan books
>because they are woefully inaccurate & often just plain wrong. Use good, solid
>historical sources for your arguments so that your detractors will be hard
>pressed to refute your claims.
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> That's my suggestion, Karla. Hope it helps you in some way.
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> Cordially,
> Brother Moloch 969
> 'Real Sorcery, Radionics & Haitian Vodu 24/7'
> www.molochsorcery.com 
>

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8.2.

Re: looking for a teacher.

Posted by: "karla mata" candy14955@yahoo.com   candy14955

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:11 pm (PDT)



thank you. when i have time i'll look at this. it's very kind of you to offer
assistance. it's very rare to find someone who is willing to stop and help
someone along their way to the same place we're all going. thank you.

________________________________
From: tkdblake93 <palaika.pinemoon@gmail.com>
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 1:58:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.

 
I'm Blake and new to the group.

I don't compare my beliefs with Christianity or pay much attention to the Bible
anymore. For Christians the Bible is the "unerring Word of God" and for me it's
just the holy book of a major world religion. I mean, if a lot of Christians
paid half the attention (as) some Pagans pay to the Bible, they'd be better
Christians!

One thing to remember about Wiccan (and some other Pagan) authors is that most
of them are NOT scholars. And that's OK for the most part. Get your spiritual
beliefs and practices from a Wiccan (or other Pagan) author, but please get your
mythology and history somewhere else. The link below is a good place to start,
especially if you want accurate information for the cultural and mythological
background of the deities you worship.

A Recommended Reading List for Dedicants
http://www.adf.org/training/resources/reading.html

As for a truly fair and balanced history of Wicca (and earlier forms of European
witchcraft), I can wholeheartedly recommend "A
History of Witchcraft" by Jeffrey B. Russell & Brooks Alexander (ISBN:
0500286345).

The link below is also recommended reading, especially when an author is making
wild historical claims about their religion.

When is a Celt Not a Celt?
http://www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/library/WhenIsACeltNotACelt.htm

Oh, a note about living, breathing spiritual teachers. Some of them charge for
any and everything. Back in the mid to late 1990s I attended weekly Wicca
workshops and paid $5 each time. That was reasonable since we were using space
in a New Age bookstore and the teacher came in from out of town.

For those exploring British Traditional Wicca, here's a good link.

Traditional Wica
http://www.tradwicca.org/beginnings.html

Threefold Blessings -- Blake /|\

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8.3.

Re: looking for a teacher.

Posted by: "karla mata" candy14955@yahoo.com   candy14955

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:12 pm (PDT)



you're probably right. i probably should have read this sooner. i already sent
out a message a long time ago. hmmm...

thank you. for clearing that up. i was definately upset the first time i read
this. and so to think it's a mistake is definately something that makes sense.

________________________________
From: mary <marydaze19@yahoo.com>
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 3:28:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.

 
I don't think the attitude you are giving this girl here is necessary. If she
misunderstood you, what is to be done?

________________________________

Mary
 
http://birca658.imagekind.com
 

________________________________
From: Moloch <moloch@molochsorcery.com>
To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 11:10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.

 
Lead you away from your wiccan beliefs??? How long have you had a reading
comprehension disability, Karla? Because obviously you are unable to read
something that's straightforward & pick up on what's being said.

Well if you want to go & read made-up & invented Wicca-crap by authors who
barely know a the subject, be my guest. Many McWiccans prior to you are doing
just that & Llewellyn's sales show that is also so. 

And with that said, I find it humorous that any rational individual would want
to wallow in ignorance & pretend Wicca instead of study & learn the real thing.
But oh well...

You're not looking for a teacher, you're looking for a leader; two very
different roles.

Moloch

--- In EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com, karla mata <candy14955@...> wrote:
>
> i'm actually reading wiccan books. not pagan. i'm sorry but i don't approve of

> you trying to lead me away from my beliefs.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Moloch moloch@...
> To: EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 8:47:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Earthwise] looking for a teacher.
>
>  
> >my first question is on religouse tolerance. should a witch tolerate the
>bible?
>
> >it says to not be a witch and to stay away from witches. and to kill witches
>and
>
> >not let them live. should i be tolerant of this?<
> >
>
> Hi Karla. My answer to that is learn your history about Witchcraft first and
>no
>
> I'm not talking about history as written by Ll-ewe-llyn authors either; rather

> learn from non-pagan books. Why? Pagan authors are just as bad as Christian
> authors in that they make up stuff that's not true or they stretch the truth a

> bit much. For example: more than one Pagan author has used the 9 million
> persecute & killed during the Inquisition for Witchcraft.
>
> Baloney!
>
> Accurate Fact #1: More people who persecuted & killed for heresy than
>Witchcraft
>
> during the Inquisition
>
> Accurate Fact #2: The numbers may have been in the hundreds of thousands or
> maybe a million or so but there is no evidence to support the claimof 9
>million.
>
> If you want to make a point about killings in the name of Jesus, why not use
>the
>
> 4,000+ beheadings of Anglo-Saxon leaders who were murdered by the good
>christian
>
> king Charlegmagne in 784 c.e., for refusal to give up their pagan ways & accept
>
> Jesus. Some accounts say it was 4,800, some say it was 4,500 but I generally
>use
>
> 4,000+ to be safe. This was called: "Bloody Verdict of Verden or Massacre of
> Verden".
>
> In all fairness, some scholars claim there is no archeological evidence to
> support such an event occurred. Some have suggested that these A-S leaders were
>
> taken by their clans & buried along with their kin instead of assuming there'd

> be some sort of mass grave. The following from Wikipedia gives some interesting
>
> info about beheadings during this time period:
>
> The following is from Wikipedia: "On the issue of beheading the historian
>Ramsay
>
> MacMullen notes that in 681 a council of bishops at Toledo called on civil
> authorities to seize and behead all those guilty of non-Christian practices of

> whatever sort.  These massacres were common on both sides throughout the
> Christianization of Europe, with similar events involving pagan Saxons, Germans
>
> and Celts and Christians documented in Britain and Ireland." (Ramsay MacMullen,
>
> Christianity & Paganism in the Fourth to Eighth Centuries, Chap
> 1:16,"Persecution", ISBN 0-300-07148-5)
>
> That alone is horrid. Murder... be-headings... christianity. I mean what would

> Jesus think? I'm certain he'd be flat out shocked. Such atrocities are never
> intended to glorify Jesus but rather glorify the maniac(s) who ordered the
> killings in the first place.
>
> Learn to use history to your advantage. Stay away from Llewllyn Pagan books
> because they are woefully inaccurate & often just plain wrong. Use good, solid

> historical sources for your arguments so that your detractors will be hard
> pressed to refute your claims.
>
> That's my suggestion, Karla. Hope it helps you in some way.
>
>
>
> Cordially,
> Brother Moloch 969
> 'Real Sorcery, Radionics & Haitian Vodu 24/7'
> www.molochsorcery.com 
>

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Re: Are You Superstitious About Black Cats?

Posted by: "Leigh Anne" crystalrose1961@yahoo.com   crystalrose1961

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:11 pm (PDT)




sorry, i think i should have posted here...lol
the only time i consider a black cat unlucky....is when my black cat is weaving in and out of my feet and i trip over him :)

--- In EarthwiseBOS@yahoogroups.com, Silver Fox <silverfox_57@...> wrote:
>
>
> Are You Superstitious About Black Cats?
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/pets/detail?entry_id=49608#ixzz0VWnrYASu
>
> Let me begin this Halloween-inspired post by stating the obvious: a cat, no matter what its color, cannot influence fortune. But, of course... this hasn't stopped people from believing in the "special powers" of black cats for centuries.
>
> In many countries, having a black cat cross your path is considered lucky.
>
> Whether you believe that these inky felines are good luck or bad could largely depend on where you grew up: If you hail from the United States or most European countries, walking in a black cat's wake might make you quake in your boots. But if you come from the United Kingdom or Japan, seeing a black cats cross your path will likely make you grin because your luck is about to change for the better.
>
> The direction the cat in question is traveling also counts for a lot. Leave it to the Germans to have the most precise rule about black cats: if they cross your path from right to left it's considered a bad omen. But if they saunter left to right, the cat is granting favorable times for you. In most parts of the world, a black cat walking towards you is considered a sign that good luck is coming your way, but if they turn around before they reach you, all bets are off.
>
> In Italy, many hold the superstition that if a black cat lies on a sick persons bed, death is not far off. In China, some believe black cats are harbingers of famine and poverty. But when Latvian farmers discover coal-colored kitties in their grain silos they dance with joy. They believe these black beauties embody the spirit of Rungis, a god of harvests. And in Scotland, finding back kittens near your home is a sure sign of riches and happiness to come.
>
> The ancient Egyptians revered black cats and treated them as royalty. In fact, killing a black cat was considered a capital offense. These favored felines were mummified upon their death to preserve them for the afterlife.
>
> Chasing black cats out of your house is thought by some to ensure that yours will not be a lucky home. It is also believed that stroking the fur of black felines will bring health and wealth. Many people around the world claim that there is a single white hair to be found on even the blackest of cats. And if you can pull out that hair without getting a scratch, you'll have a long, happy and prosperous marriage.
>
> So, how did black cats become associated with witchcraft? In the 15th century, witch hunts spread like wildfire across Europe in a horribly misguided effort to put the kibosh on pagan religions. Many people believed that all witches kept "familiars" — small creatures including frogs, birds, snakes and very often cats — to help them cast evil spells. And if that cat was black — a color associated with magic and sorcery — look out. It became "proof" that the unfortunate victim was a witch or warlock and was a sure ticket to a date with some rope and a few stakes.
>
> Puritan Christians believed that witches had the power to transmute themselves into black cats to avoid death, which inspired many stories and legends. While being sentenced to death, a German witch is said to have cackled at the judge, spat threats at the priest and cursed her executioner. As the story goes, she was dragged from the court and tied to a stake for burning. As the flames rose around her there was a flash of light and a black cat leaped from the flames and ran through the astonished crowd.
>
> King Charles I of England is reported to have kept what he believed to be a lucky black cat as a pet. He was so fearful of losing it that he had it guarded day and night. The cat reportedly died the day before Oliver Cromwell's parliamentary troops came and arrested the king for high treason. Not long after, the king was beheaded. Alas, his luck had truly run out.
>
> Regardless of what superstitions continue to circulate about cats — of the black or other varieties — it's safe to say that most people feel very lucky to have them in their lives.
>
> Silver Fox
>
> "It is all true, it is not true. The more I tell you, the more I shall lie. What is story but jesting Pilate's cry. I am not paid to tell you the truth."
> Jane Yolen; The Storyteller
>

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Posted by: "Leigh Miller" crystalrose1961@yahoo.com   crystalrose1961

Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:11 pm (PDT)



as far as i'm concerned the only time a black cat is unlucky.....is when my
black cat is weaving between my feet and i trip over him :)

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