sâmbătă, 30 octombrie 2010

[WitchesWorkshop] Digest Number 4563

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Psychic Development Circle - Wollongong, 11/3/2010, 7:00 pm From: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
2a.
Re: Halloween From: carteblanche13
2b.
Re: Halloween From: vicpagan
2c.
Re: Halloween From: Frater Carfax
2d.
Re: Halloween From: Frater Carfax
2e.
Cults From: carteblanche13
3a.
Re: o, another halloween story From: Tish
4.1.
Re: Wytchcraeft From: vicpagan
4.2.
Re: Wytchcraeft From: crossroadsincircle
4.3.
Re: Wytchcraeft From: crossroadsincircle
5a.
Fwd: Hallowe'en... interview anyone? From: Ozpagan
5b.
Re: Fwd: Hallowe'en... interview anyone? From: gregorytk

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Psychic Development Circle - Wollongong, 11/3/2010, 7:00 pm

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Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:57 am (PDT)



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2a.

Re: Halloween

Posted by: "carteblanche13" carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au   carteblanche13

Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:14 am (PDT)




Dear Jonathan,

--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, "Frater Carfax" <tzuflifu@...> wrote:
>
>
> Evening CB
>
> On your point...
>
> > > (CB:)Some would say that to observe Samhain on October 31st when living in the Southern Hemisphere "because that's what the tradition of the Old Country says" is like obeserving Dusk at 6.00am, or Noon at 0.00am, for the identical reason. The calendar -- all calendars, pagan, witch, whatever - arise from the Seasons, not the other way around.
>
> Another school of thought may argue that this is precisely the problem with the so called, "Celtic Wheel of the Year" in Australia - in that only flipping for hemispherical sake is insufficient, is lazy dogma and divorced from the primary reality of the landscape and differing climatic realities (unless your landscape is primarily made up of 'invasive colonial' flora and fauna)
>
> Case in point
> http://www.bom.gov.au/iwk/climate_culture/Indig_seasons.shtml

Forgive my length - I enjoy writing when it is overcast.

I suppose it depends on what you are intending to do with the designations - but it is certainly always good to see things through fresh glass, and I am sure that more understanding of the indigenous knowledge of the various localised climates in Australia could (perhaps) help bring us forward in certain respects. The natives here have had much more experience of our climate and landscape obviously, and they also preserve primal traditions (regarding ancestors, for example, and the Dreamtime, which I find great resonance with in many other world traditions) whose European counterparts were suppressed, or which later evolved during the more intense cross-cultural experience which European, African, and Oriental cultures have enjoyed (or not!) by comparison.

Another point came to mind after posting my previous post. And that is the separation of man from nature which post-industrial urbanisation has produced ( or of which it is a symptom? ) as reflected in the arbitrary situation regarding calendars, and the underhanded manner in which seasonal festivities have to assert themselves in contemporary society - which is reflected in the totally contrived, almost forced way in which they have been adopted by certain Wiccans and the anachronistic neo-pagan or pagan reconstructionist revivalist types.

But the simple fact is that although we are still human beings (presumably), and Earth is still the Earth, and the Sun and Moon and Stars are still the Sun, Moon and Stars just as much as all these things all were what they were fifty thousand or three thousand years ago, something quite fundamental has changed, and that is human power, and certain parts of human consciousness. We are still insignificant gnats compared with a cyclone or earthquake, nukes or no nukes. But we have outsourced our consciousness and will to inanimate objects at a rate which defies measurement. We are becoming something more than any of our ancestors could ever have hoped. We've stood on the moon, but most of them didn't even know that it was solid. The moon hasn't changed, and neither have we - but our relationship has. Relationship is (I think) the only possible measure of Truth, its only instrument of apperception. And it is "relationship" which produces such things as seasons, and our recognition of them. There is another relationship involved in the present subject - our relationship to Tradition, and whose, and why, and so on.

How relevant is seasonal observation of the agrarian or hunter-gather sort to us today, when we import unseasonal and mostly wildly foreign produce all-year round, and most of us spend entire years without seeing a single thing we eat in its pre-packaged state, let alone understand in our core the characters of the animals and plants themselves, thereby to form authentic relationships with them which would require no explanation, no books, no "revival" to express or to celebrate? The lucky and sensible among us may have struck a pretty balance between Town and Country, but most people do not. We/they may lament it all the time, but it doesn't stop us from living in gigantic cities, stacked on top of eachother in concrete cubes lit by electrified gas (during the day!) produced by billion year-old plant remains which we've gone three miles into the earth to collect using metal robots and machines. Clearly we are not our ancestors, and we cannot live their life. We cannot unlearn what we know. We have moved on - in fact, THEY moved on, and we are the product of their actions, their momentum, their direction. We presently have the steering-wheel in our trembling hands - shall we accelerate even more before we have worked out what lies over the horizon? Shall we brake hard and close our eyes? Shall we lose control, collide with an unnoticed obstacle, and end up atomised or painfully maimed? Shall we quietly reverse? Or - and, as a non-driver, I find some sense in this - shall we turn off the ignition and walk instead (and then after ten minutes, ring a taxi, which is what I normally end up doing - or get run over).

Not even our indigenous people can live entirely a stone-age hunter-gatherer lifestyle today, and whether this is a good or a bad thing I cannot say. But the flora and fauna which keep us ALL alive in this country today are nearly all foreign - just like the clothes, language, ideas, and tools to which we continue to "outsource" or extend, or express, our consciousness, or our relationships with experience.

The (in one sense procrustean) tendency towards symmetry, and rationalally-satisfying "systemic" symbolic schemes (such as the Wheel of the Year, the various circle associations, the tree of life, the tarot, ritual rubrics etc.) is simply part of the language-making faculty, which as we all know (or perhaps should), is only a tool, or organ - an instrument (whether Wand, Cup, Sword or Pentacle) to be applied to our requisite needs. More precisely, it is a grammar (Grimoire). Perhaps the best tool we know of for use in this universe is the human body, which is all tools combined and in potentia - it can do anything these days, by making and using all these other tools in the service of its resident spirit, or consciousness. The best tool is the one which can have a useful relationship (/application) with the most things, to the greatest degree. We have: Mind, then body, then all the things we develop and use both mental and physical for certain purposes.

The best tool or Grimoire therefore is one which does everything we want it to do for us. This means it must "relate" as comprehensively as possible to as many other other dimensions or aspects of reality (both subjective and apparently objective) as it can, because relation is not just everything: it is the only thing, as well. Where magical calendars are concerned, this might mean:

a) fidelity to the phenomenally experienced character of time (i.e. change) and its rhythms: Seasons, lunar cycles, diurnal qualities, etc.

b) relate or interface on a meaningful practical level with enough aspects of the inheritances of (any) received tradition, insofar as the language and symbolic medium goes, so as to conserve (and not lose) meaning and semantic depth, and the sense of continuity which is clearly part of what many require.

c) resonate on a purely poetic level in and of itself to such an extent that it doesn't matter whether or not it is literally accurate, if it is mythically accurate enough, it won't matter.

An ideal and up-to-date magical calendar for humans alive in our world today - with the relationship (some might say, the "Aeon(s)") which we presently have to our current location in Time, might have all three features up and running.

> But given nonsensical traditional activities repeated over generations out of context can generate festival events devoid of seasonal linkage, do you believe a Festival with seasonal origins can undergo legitimate 'mystical evolution', for want of a better term, and transcend to become a magically relevant time fixed on the calendar?
>
> If so what are the hurdles that need to be jumped to be validated?

Where Halowe'en/Samhain is concerned, the doctrine of "polar opposites resuming dynamically-necessary twin-antipodeal phases of a single axial reality" (of which the notion of opposite-complementary signs in Astrology is one example) would seem to be one place to look.

There is another place to look as well, which satisfies me that the Northern Hemisphere observances have more than a merely Solar/Terrestrial seasonal relationship as their deepest stratum of significance, and are therefore justified both in their traditional pre-eminence, and in their ubiquity in modern magical practise and literature, especially given its particular flavouring, but I'll leave it there for now.

I might add that in my previous post, by "samhain" I do not mean the Northern Hemisphere date, but the seasonal fact, regardless of "date".

Best regards
C.B.

2b.

Re: Halloween

Posted by: "vicpagan" thepaganz@hotmail.com   vicpagan

Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:06 am (PDT)



As far as most of the Western world, except for a handfull of Neopagans are concerned, October 31st is Halloween. As far as most Neopagans are concerned it's Samhian. It is only a fraction of a handfull of Southern hemisphere Neopagans who know that it is Beltaine.

Since by definition the majority of people are average or dumber, while the minority are smarter than average, it stands to reason that we are right and the rest of the world is wrong, and it is clearly Beltaine! Although in the name of ecumenicism we could probably call it Haltaine, or Beloween!
BB
Hawthorn

2c.

Re: Halloween

Posted by: "Frater Carfax" tzuflifu@yahoo.com   frater_carfax

Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:19 pm (PDT)





> Although in the name of ecumenicism we could probably call it Haltaine, or Beloween!

Hah! I'd vote for Beloween myself...

Fortunately I'm dodging the whole thing by celebrating Fet Ghede anyway

(and to all vodouisants I hope Baron sticks something nice & big through your Fet Ghede stockings....)

Jonathan

2d.

Re: Halloween

Posted by: "Frater Carfax" tzuflifu@yahoo.com   frater_carfax

Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:51 pm (PDT)



Good morrow CB

> Forgive my length - I enjoy writing when it is overcast.

Share the sentiment.

> I suppose it depends on what you are intending to do with the designations - but it is
> certainly always good to see things through fresh glass, and I am sure that more
> understanding of the indigenous knowledge of the various localised climates in Australia > could (perhaps) help bring us forward in certain respects.

And I think culture is against us...in a much more urbanised and mobile society who are just as likely to move states and regions for a job, sometimes the rhythms take a number of cycles of experience to even just tap into the differences.

Since moving to the Adelaide Hills, one of my 'signals' for winter is the first winter rains that bring out the plagues of ghost moths (good eating from all accounts...must try next year in the wok). But not all the Adelaide Hills gets this event I think, and even less so down on the plains. The signals are different.

Also, with the flowering of spring - the grapevines going into bud, the irises, and all the usual European cues - my particular microclimate is 4 weeks behind the mallee plains and adelaide plains down either side of the hills, and it is still dropping down to 3-4 degrees at night - the icy finger of winter lingers a bit longer...

> which is reflected in the totally contrived, almost forced way in which they have been
> adopted by certain Wiccans and the anachronistic neo-pagan or pagan reconstructionist > revivalist types.

I have often stated that I think it is shame that neopaganism seems fine to adopt a broad ecumenical approach to deities, but not their specific holidays. Granted the rising and falling of the Nile is hard to do here (let alone there with the dams), but you see my point.

I know PAN Inc would likes to remove the word "Cult" from the lexicon of words associated with the neopagan movement, but I feel if we had a few more Mystery based "Cults" in the scene with celebratory periods outside the blasted wheel of eternal conformance it would not be a bad thing.

> Relationship is (I think) the only possible measure of Truth, its only instrument of
> apperception. And it is "relationship" which produces such things as seasons, and our
> recognition of them. There is another relationship involved in the present subject - our > relationship to Tradition, and whose, and why, and so on.

I won't add any further other than to say that I think this, and your following observations, is one of the more profound things I have read this year

...however one wishes to define said year :-P

But I'll highlight a key word you mentioned that I think drives our motivations, and the shift to impose our relationship terms rather than negotiate the relationship - symmetry. And I think the reality is that nature, seasons, the cosmos is anything but symmetrical.

Which is the difference between celebrating the start of spring because the Calender says so, as opposed to when the beasties actually start rutting.

LLL

Jonathan

2e.

Cults

Posted by: "carteblanche13" carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au   carteblanche13

Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:19 pm (PDT)




Dear Jonathan,

--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, "Frater Carfax" <tzuflifu@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > which is reflected in the totally contrived, almost forced way in which they have been
> > adopted by certain Wiccans and the anachronistic neo-pagan or pagan reconstructionist > revivalist types.
>
> I have often stated that I think it is shame that neopaganism seems fine to adopt a broad ecumenical approach to deities, but not their specific holidays. Granted the rising and falling of the Nile is hard to do here (let alone there with the dams), but you see my point.

Yes. This is a crucial matter, because the Hermetic tradition is Aegypto-cthonous and we aren't, even when we dress up. We could pretend to something similar for the Murray-Darling I suppose, but most of us don't live along its banks and depend upon it directly, and in any case we'd need ten thousand years or so to evolve something comparable. Even then, it would be pointless and contrived because everything comes from overseas and we are a net importer of food. Which is an utter disgrace - and entirely due to all of the imbecilic Australian governments on both sides of politics from 1980 onwards.

> I know PAN Inc would likes to remove the word "Cult" from the lexicon of words associated with the neopagan movement, but I feel if we had a few more Mystery based "Cults" in the scene with celebratory periods outside the blasted wheel of eternal conformance it would not be a bad thing.

Cults are the best thing ever, and "the blasted wheel of eternal conformance" is simply another type. There is CULT and then there is Cult - and there is nothing wrong with the latter. Two types:

1. The bad kind of Cult. Control of the vulnerable by the predatory through imposition of artificial social conventions for either financial, sexual, or egoistic gain of some kind through fabricating belief for this purpose (Messianism of ALL imaginable kinds - nobody can save you, people). Think: The Family (the "Children of God" cult, not the normal social unit! although...!), Scientology, the Vatican, all known political parties, all ideologies or -isms including Marxism and Capitalism, Nationalism, etc. Esoteric "orders", covens etc. sometimes either stray or begin in this territory, and all religions end up there (even Tibetan Buddhism!) if they weren't explicitly invented for the purpose, to start with.

2. The good kind of Cult. This is in the positive original sense of the word "cult" as "cultivation": to cult-ivate an orchid, a habit, a musical instrument, a talent, a sport, or a magical or mystical practise, you must devote yourself to it. This is what a cult should be and this is what even Catholics openly do with the various cults of the Saints (which are of course nearly all Pagan deities), which are in fact called "cults". It aligns with the various Yogas too.

> But I'll highlight a key word you mentioned that I think drives our motivations, and the shift to impose our relationship terms rather than negotiate the relationship - symmetry. And I think the reality is that nature, seasons, the cosmos is anything but symmetrical.
>
> Which is the difference between celebrating the start of spring because the Calender says so, as opposed to when the beasties actually start rutting.

I begin feeling the hot young breath of Spring first of all in my own body, then notice the lengthening sunlight and the wakening plants, the multiplying insects. I actually AM one of those "rutting beasties"!

Regarding symmetry - conventions are pragmatic compromises of convenience - whether of thought, or of action. The line must be drawn somewhere. It can be rubbed out and moved later, but it must start somewhere or nothing will happen. Conventions are also an expression or definition, or model, of a relationship, and as such can be infinitely refined in layers upon layers in order to articulate or express the realities intended or signified by them. Think of the notation used for chemistry and physics, of music, and so on. It is a language and all languages are conventions agreed upon simply to provide a limited but sufficient measure of congruency between two universes. And as such they should be in continual evolution which mirrors the continually evolving relationship, if you are dealing with reality at all. There can be a radial point of dogma (which can also move later, with improved perspective) from which flows the various interpretations, but if it is kept in mind that it has been intentionally adopted for convenience's sake - as being the most CONVEN-ient or direct way of engaging with the particular reality being dealt with (and therefore the most real) no danger of calcifying into dead dogma will arise. This is how to stop cult type 2 becoming cult type 1.

From a purely Planet Earth perspective, a global perspective which accounts for the poles and the Equator too, with two Solstices and two Equinoxes no matter where you are, Four Seasons (i.e. the European, and correct, ones) makes perfect sense as a realistic, symmetrical, and accurate convention. But then it is of course an abstraction - but all conventions necessarily are. One could then localise it by hemisphere in terms of direction, and of course each individual is unique.

The other issue regarding the idea of Festivals for the seasons is: why? We don't live in poky little villages where all the chicks wear plaits and ribbons and little lacy cotton bonnets (sadly! very hot!!!) and sit at spinning-wheels all the day, and all the men wear liederhosen and laugh sing gaily in deep bronzed baritone whilst clasping a stone hammer to their breast, whilst gigantic eagles steal farm animals and children. No, those days are gone, my friends.

The idea of pagan or witch festivals is not a social norm in our society, it is an abberation, but in a country with one of the highest suicide rates in the entire world despite incredible living standards and unequalled security, the more social abberations we have of this kind the healthier it is likely to become - it is obviously something which is required and missing in our funny little New World society. Festivals of this kind are either a deliberate effort to facilitate a type of community where it is very sorely needed, or are a solitary observance with spiritual meaning of a magical or mystical nature, or they are a mixture of the social and spiritual - which latter situation requires even greater awareness of the fact that pragmatic convention is the central issue, convention based on and founded upon a reality (whether physical, traditional, etc.) of some kind in order to facilitate itself as either a social and/or spiritual event. The conventions are not arbitrary because they are founded upon realities (of whatever kind). It is the selection of those foundational realities which defines the event as "pagan" or "magical" or "witchy" or whatever, and the relationship between the reality and the term used to denote it (i.e. the definition) is something worth recognising as simply a convention in and of itself!

Fuck this, I'm going to the beach!

C.B.

3a.

Re: o, another halloween story

Posted by: "Tish" deborahs23@optusnet.com.au   morticia_its_me

Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:33 am (PDT)



Gotta give my humble opinion here..yeppers definitely the wrong season
indeed..

But I have to ask how does one allow our children to do halloween when the
rest of
the year we are telling our children not to take to lollies from strangers?

I do not enjoy the idea of my grandchildren going to strangers houses
asking
for lollies....nope it's not on..

Cheers

Tish








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From: M Lycett
Date: 29/10/2010 8:54:32 AM
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WitchesWorkshop] RE: o, another halloween story


Hmmm, shame they're doing it at the wrong time of the year though :-/

meggs
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Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] RE: o, another halloween story

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> john elder here from the sunday age.
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> i'm working on a piece about the growing popularity of halloween at a
> neighborhood and community-event level. this year for the first time Coles

> is selling halloween costumes (where they have previously sold only masks)

> and otherwise marketing hard thjeir kent pumpkins etc. Coles told me they
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> because of consumer demand. Intersting this is happening a couple of weeks

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4.1.

Re: Wytchcraeft

Posted by: "vicpagan" thepaganz@hotmail.com   vicpagan

Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:20 am (PDT)



Hi Minka
You wrote:-

> I guess one could start making picture books with special pictures. Graphic novel grimoire?

I like that idea! Orryelle
http://www.crossroads.wild.net.au/bio.htm has done a graphic grimoire.

> Or perhaps its a case of dumping all the crap before moving on.

Crap can be used as fertilizer.

> Each time I start a new art project I have to forget a little in order to create. Each painting is its own creation - every witch has their own magic, each ritual has a life of its own (as you well know).

Each act of creation is also an act of destruction.

> The artistic process for me echoes the magical one. It is built upon teachings/techniques/skills/experience from before, but each painting/ritual is a new thing at the same time.

Yep!

BB
Hawthorn

4.2.

Re: Wytchcraeft

Posted by: "crossroadsincircle" crossroadsincircle@yahoo.com.au   crossroadsincircle

Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:27 pm (PDT)



Hi Jess,

I don't believe that the 'magick' requires us to be half-assed, or to fear our own and other's power.

It seems more to me that there's a fear of organisation amongst a lot of the pagan poulation I've come into contact with in Australia. As though people willing to take the lead, or working within temporary structures somehow derives others of self-authority. I'm not sure if this is a reaction soe other factor within the pagan culture in Australia, or if its a fear that by agreeing with other people, the individual somehow mysteriously loses the power to change their mind and negate the authority of others if it becomes needed.

BT

--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, "Jess Steers" <jess@...> wrote:
>
> BT,
>
>
>
> I wasn't being negative or positive with my comment - it's simply a
> reflection of my own observations, a decade of experience, and also a repeat
> of a comment I've often affectionately heard from pagan people over the
> years (herding cats, etc).
>
>
>
> Perhaps the very things you see as negatives in our community are the same
> things that are keeping the magick alive.
>
>
>
> Jess
>
>
>
>
>
> From: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of crossroadsincircle
> Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 10:31 AM
> To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: Wytchcraeft
>
>
>
>
>
> "Pagans couldn't get organised if their lives depended on it!"
>
> You seem to say this as though it were a good thing. Since when is
> ineptitude, a lack of recognition for ability, and inability to agree on
> things beneficial?
>
> It also seems a little off considering the level of organisation displayed
> by groups in Britain and the US.
>
> BT
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4.3.

Re: Wytchcraeft

Posted by: "crossroadsincircle" crossroadsincircle@yahoo.com.au   crossroadsincircle

Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:32 pm (PDT)



Hey H,

Should we allow the cases where self-created tyrants, and individuals with unadressed issues who have used others as an opportunity for psychodrama to taint all of our interactions?

It seems to me that writing it all off because some people were dicks is somewhat premature and wasteful. Maybe I should have also mentioned 'a hope to develop discernment' in my first comment?

BT

--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, "vicpagan" <thepaganz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi BT
> You wrote:-
>
> > Since when is ineptitude, a lack of recognition for ability, and
> > inability to agree on things beneficial?
>
> When skill serves a fascist agenda, when the only ability is that of self promotion, and when benifit is defined by the self-serving and unscrupulous!
>
> Not making any accusations here, just saying!
> BB
> H
>

5a.

Fwd: Hallowe'en... interview anyone?

Posted by: "Ozpagan" ozpagan@ozpagan.com   wwwozpagancom

Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:18 pm (PDT)



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Date: 30 October 2010 1:55:25 AM
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message:
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. . . . . . . . . . . .

Hi Scott,

I'm a little too busy to do this myself, but I have forwarded your request to our national social-media networks which has 4000+ members of Aussie pagans and witches.

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5b.

Re: Fwd: Hallowe'en... interview anyone?

Posted by: "gregorytk" gregorytk@bigpond.com   theresa.venus

Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:34 am (PDT)



I was interviewed on 97.3fm ABC Illawarra on Friday morning.

They said they would be calling me again as the need arises.

Venus

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From: "Ozpagan" <ozpagan@ozpagan.com>
To: <WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Fwd: Hallowe'en... interview anyone?

> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Scott MacKillop <smackillop@2gb.com>
> Date: 30 October 2010 1:55:25 AM
> To: info@witchesworkshop.com
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> message:
> Interested in speaking to a witch on our radio show on 2GB in Sydney for
> Halloween. Can you please send me an email if you know any witches who
> would be up for a bit of fun for Halloween (ie have a sense of humour?
> Thanks!
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . .
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I'm a little too busy to do this myself, but I have forwarded your request
> to our national social-media networks which has 4000+ members of Aussie
> pagans and witches.
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>
> vinum sabbati,
> Tim 'ozpagan'
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Witches Workshop hold regular workshops see
http://www.witchesworkshop.com/Circle/circle_workshop.html

Keep up to date via our WitchesWorshop Facebook Page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sydney-Australia/WitchesWorkshop/135651219624

WitchesWorkshop and Witch Camp Australia also run camps
several times a year - check out our websites for updates.
http://www.witchcampaustralia.org.au
http://www.witchesworkshop.com
___________________________________________________________

The WitchesWorkshop egroup holds the expectation that a
tolerant and respectful dialogue be strived for in our  
communication with other pagans, witches magicians, et al.
Members are encouraged to challenge anyone not adhering
to these principles & to notify owner.

info@witchesworkshop.com
___________________________________________________________

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