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1.1.: Re: Witchcraft in Germany From: barbtrad
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1.1.: Re: Witchcraft in Germany

Posted by: "barbtrad" barbtrad@yahoo.com.au barbtrad

Fri Jan 6, 2012 2:42 pm (PST)

Sorry Chris,
I think reading your post tis early in the day requires a stronger stomach that the time of day finds me with. However I think you dictating what this list and even worse, what magic and paganism is about is just a tad pretentious don't you think? Quote " This is list about Magic and Paganism, which means talking about how what you think and feel shapes your aura and can effect what happens to you should seem too out there."

Hey Chris me old mate if you, or anyone else desires to go about wearing a placard reading " Hi I'm Chris please screw me over everyone else does" then go for it."

And remember what I wrote in my post regarding people liking me?

Bill

--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Michaels <thoughtful_outsider@...> wrote:
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> I actually don't assume strangers and difference means enemy but i don't assume they going to be friends either.. I think you are wrong in saying that on the balance of probabilities people who aren't kin or friend, who aren't known to you, are most likely to end up enemies. I don't know where you live but I live in a city of 4.5 million people and have travelled to and/or lived in LA, New York, London and recently to Beijing, the vast majority of people I came across didn't care anything about what I thought and felt and I didn't have much interest in them in return. The balance of probabilities are that most people you meet going to be disinterestedly neutral about me or you and most people they meet.
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> For someone to attack you, to become an enemy there is usually a reason. And guess what 80-90% of murders are solved with in 24-48 hours because they are carried out by someone close to the victim, an amazing number are kin (60%) who carry out the murder. It takes passion, attention and interest for someone to want to hurt you, to feel threatened by you. This is the definition of an enemy. So at minimum there are at least three options kin, neutral, enemy and someone being a stranger may well be the safest person you are likely to meet. Even the high school mass murders have mostly killed people they knew well enough to come to hate, and also well enough under non-sick circumstances to be friends with.
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> Research suggests only 1% of people who are psychopaths/sociopaths, people who can carry out apparently unmotivated violence. Yes, they maybe responsible for 10-15% of murders and attacks and be 25% of people in jail and responsible for 60% of the violence in jails. However you have to be unlucky to meet a member of this 1% of violent sickos. It is interesting that we get suckered by media interest in this 1%. If I asked you to bet on a horse telling you she had a 1/100 chance of winning would you put your money on it? No... yet we run our lives on those odds when it comes to danger. I agree that if that 1/100 chance results in catastrophe then we should take insurance, which means absolutely evaluing the danger in a unknown situation but if you assume danger you are setting up yourself.
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> This is list about Magic and Paganism, which means talking about how what you think and feel shapes your aura and can effect what happens to you should seem too out there. It has been 29 years since I was physically attacked and all that travelling I've done has been done since that last attack. I was cab driver in Sydney for 6 years without physical attack, for example. I've had people huff and puff and threaten me but I have been able to de-escalate the situation, maintain my integrity and get the outcome I wanted, bring them to a neutral standing at least.
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> I agree that evoluion programs all living things including us to run instinctively through a series of questions is this order of priority when faced with an unknown situation:
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> 1) is there danger?
> 2) is there nourishment?
> 3) will it contribute to reproductive success?
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> then comes beauty, love and the rest...
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> but like I said the most likely result is neutral that the answer to every question is no. No to danger, no to nourishment no to sex beauty love and the rest. The mostly likely outcome as I said is neutral disinterest, like the most trees, grass, animals and people.
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> Christopher
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> http://deepconnecttantra.com
> http://wildmandrake.deviantart.com
> http://www.myspace.com/wildmandrake
> Skype ID: wildmandrake
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> "to achieve change we must step outside and view the situation from a new angle"
> "life doesn't travel so fast if you're paying attention."
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> from the movie 'stay'- Henry Letham: ...Tristan Rêveur quote about bad art? It's "bad art is more tragically beautiful than good art 'cause it documents human failure."
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1.2.: Re: Witchcraft in Germany

Posted by: "barbtrad" barbtrad@yahoo.com.au barbtrad

Fri Jan 6, 2012 2:47 pm (PST)

Well chris I actually have a lot more years experience with life's little foibles than you, so quoting your age as validation of your point of view is a load of horse feathers!

Bill

--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Michaels <thoughtful_outsider@...> wrote:
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> Well Bill you certainly know how to do condescension which maybe why your world is full of enemies... and my world is full of mostly people who are neutral with a lot of good friends and very few enemies... at 53 I have a fair bit of experience to back my point of view... my reality, my real experience of using magic to create connections with a massive numbers of people in a way that minimizes confict and pain for all. with very few enemies..
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> Christopher
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> http://deepconnecttantra.com
> http://wildmandrake.deviantart.com
> http://www.myspace.com/wildmandrake
> Skype ID: wildmandrake
>
>
> "to achieve change we must step outside and view the situation from a new angle"
> "life doesn't travel so fast if you're paying attention."
>
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> from the movie 'stay'- Henry Letham: ...Tristan Rêveur quote about bad art? It's "bad art is more tragically beautiful than good art 'cause it documents human failure."
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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