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Australian WitchCamp Easter 2011, Victoria
Posted by: "SunBird" fimariposa@yahoo.com.au fimariposa
Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:38 am (PST)
Hi Everyone,
Just a quick note to remind you that the early bird payment period for registrations for next year's WitchCamp is fast running out. If you would like to attend the WitchCamp next Easter, then please register by the end of this month to take advantage of our 'early bird' prices.
Also, keep an eye on our website for the upcoming announcement of teaching paths at the camp. Teaching Paths are an important feature of Reclaiming WitchCamps, as they help to create a structured spiritual and magical journey for participants throughout the course of the WitchCamp. At our 2011 WitchCamp, we will offer three different Paths. Descriptions of each Path will be available on our website in the very near future.
We are very excited to be able to offer the very first Reclaiming WitchCamp here in Australia.
I hope to see some of you there next year.
BB SunBird
Australian Reclaiming WitchCamp 2011
Where: Healesville, Victoria
When: Thurs April 21 to Mon April 25, 2011
Contact: ecell@australiareclaiming.org .
Web: http://witchcamp.australiareclaim ing.org.au
Host:
The Australian Reclaiming Community (ARC) is a collective of different
Reclaiming-identified groups and individuals across Australia.
Description:
The Australian Reclaiming Community (ARC) is pleased to announce that
we will be hosting the very first Australian WitchCamp in April 2011.
Reclaiming WitchCamps are renowned internationally as deeply ecstatic
and transformative events. We are very excited to be able to offer
the first ever Reclaiming WitchCamp here in Australia, to be held in
the beautiful native bushland of Healesville, Victoria!
WitchCamps were
first organised in California during the 1980s and have since
flourished across the US, Canada and Western Europe. Each Camp includes
a series of workshops and rituals inspired by a central Camp theme, and
are created by an experienced teaching team. The teaching team for the
first ARC WitchCamp includes both Australian and International teachers:
John Brazaitis (US)
Rhonda King (Vic, AUS)
Fiona Mariposa (Vic, AUS)
Jane Meredith (NSW, AUS)
Gede Parma (Qld, AUS)
Ravyn Stanfield (US)
This
teaching team has many years of priest/priestessing and teaching
experience between them. We are thrilled to be able to host this event
as an offering to the Australian Pagan community.
Registration for the 2011 ARC WitchCamp is now open!
Please
register early to take advantage of our 'Early Bird' prices and to
secure your place. Places are limited. For more information about the
2011 Australian Reclaiming Community WitchCamp and to register your
attendance, visit our website at http://witchcamp.australiareclaim ing.org.au.
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Re: Tradition
Posted by: "cottytosmaid" cottytosmaid@yahoo.com.au cottytosmaid
Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:30 pm (PST)
Greetings CB.
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , "carteblanche13" <carteblanche13@com ...> wrote:
..I'll leave you with this thought..Ghengis Khan boasted that a young virgin could walk from one end of his realm to another carrying a bag of gold in perfect safety.. today under your much vaunted system an old age pensioner risks life and limb at the hands of miscreants for a few lousy dollars in their purse. merely by venturing out their door.
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> What were you saying about lies and propaganda, Bill? Is it also one of your traditional beliefs that those who resort to violence in order to achieve their ends never use lies and propaganda in addition? History shows that the two go hand in hand - so either way, we're stuck with the latter - but the former is, in fact, optional. And I reject it.
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> Under Ghengis Khan's rule, it is likely that any gold-laden virgin who put this ridiculous propagandistic claim to the test and fell foul of THE REALITY would have been put to death as undermining his advertising.
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> That's where it gets you. You really haven't thought this through at all, have you.
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> ' The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it!' - do you have a bumper sticker with this on it, except with "the Bible" crossed out and the word "tradition" stuck in its place?
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> C.B.
I really think you are missing the point. Law and order is based on violence, without violence there is no law and order. Admittedly, there has to be a common sense balance or kids are going to be blown away with shotguns for pinching apples from neighbour's tree.
Whether you socialist, idealist types are prepared to pull your heads out of the sand and see the reality is up to you. But if you think the system we have is violence and killing free then you are indeed deluded.( read the papers and watch the news for goodness sake!!) Most accept that if you resist you die. It is actually that simple. You break a law, police will try to apprehend you, you resist they will use whatever level of violence/force needed to subdue you; lethal force if necessary. You steal an item worth 50 cents, the police try to arrest you, you resist by pulling out a weapon. You WILL be shot, most likely lethally. Police are trained along the lines of - If you have to shoot then shoot to disable immediately, which in practical terms most likely means a fatal wound. It cannot be other than this, because shooting the gun/knife or whatever out of the criminal's hand is only in the movies and non fatal hits will still allow the criminal to fire their gun, stab with their knife or set off their explosives.
If you ever have a home invasion by drug crazed maniacs and, as unlikely as it is due to their work load, the police arrive in time to save your butt. I really doubt your going to be too upset if the criminals get shot dead. Our Pagan ancestors knew all about violence and its place in the security of themselves their loved ones and kin. Thing was in those times they didn't have the luxury of a police force to call, it was down to them to protect their own. ( and the advantage of that being that they didn't have to wait for their salvation to arrive in time).
I for one am very grateful we do now have police to step into harms way to save me and mine. But please get off this "lets solve all society's problems at the ballot box" So far it hasn't worked too well has it? No one, including Bill would advocate a Saddam Hussein type leadership, but face the fact that we are still, ultimately, ruled at the point of the gun.
Ever been to war CB? Ever experienced situations where its literally kill or be killed? Our ancestors faced that, almost on a daily basis, and Bill has been on the front line in a dirty war, (created by way, by your precious politicians who you hold such stock by).You seem to be ridiculing and hurling silly accusations because he, ( and like it or lump it, many others with traditional Pagan beliefs, myself included have the same beliefs)We are realists and believes that it just can't be fixed by humans alone. That's why we "traditionalists" hold such stock by the wisdom of the ancients and our deities, to give us guidance and a map to find our way through the wilderness and insanity of the world that is. Ever heard the terms, "World that is", and "The world that could be"? - Didn't think so!
Being "Pagan" does NOT always mean adhering to this modern Paganism, and it quasi atheism and "No violence please we are Pagans", and an obsession with an ecology that is doomed anyway and a mindset that there aren't any rules, and even if there are, they don't apply to me mindset.
Look we do not have a problem in you guys holding the beliefs you do. Wont catch us trying to convert you by any means, let alone the, as I read it, Aggressive, sometimes vindictive sort of argumentative diatribe you have presented. Fact is matey, we wouldn't want you. Neither would our ancients and deities have a bar of you while you have those mindsets.
Cotty ( Yes another Hereditary Barbarian)
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