Messages In This Digest (18 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: vicpagan
- 1b.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: vicpagan
- 1c.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: vicpagan
- 1d.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: Jess Steers
- 1e.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: firewuff
- 1f.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: John Elder
- 1g.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: xxxxxxminkaxxxxxx
- 1h.
- Re: Wytchcraeft From: Media Officer
- 1i.
- Re: Whych craft ? From: carteblanche13
- 2a.
- Virgins was Re: Wytchcraeft From: vicpagan
- 3.1.
- Re: Taxation dept may finally recognise Paganism as a valid religion From: firewuff
- 3.2.
- Re: Taxation dept may finally recognise Paganism as a valid religion From: John Elder
- 3.3.
- Re: Taxation dept may finally recognise Paganism as a valid religion From: Media Officer
- 4a.
- Remembrance List - research needed From: frances_tdm
- 4b.
- Re: Remembrance List - research needed From: frances_tdm
- 5a.
- Obituary for a Psychic Octopus From: carteblanche13
- 5b.
- Re: Obituary for a Psychic Octopus From: John Elder
- 5c.
- Re: Obituary for a Psychic Octopus From: Tish
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "vicpagan" thepaganz@hotmail.com vicpagan
Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:35 am (PDT)
Hi Gav
You wrote:-
> Well, isn't that the beauty of being a witch in this day and age?
> No Pagan Inquisition running around weeding out the insufficiently > mad or those imperfectly reverent of panne-velvet (give me bare
> flesh any day...)
I've seen witches being critisised for not being naked enough, and others for being too nude! As far as I can tell the only reason there is no pagan inquisition is that no one has the clout to make one!
> People are always going to have different interpretations of what
> they feel is true magick, the true spirit of the Craft.
Indeed! I have always championed peoples right to do so. As far as I am concerned people can have their interpretations and opinions, so long as they don't try to impose them on anyone else who is minding their own business and not causing harm.
I have to admit though that I find the growing trend towards the 'normalisation' witchcraft a bit worrisome. Particularly as I perceive an associated tendency to marginalise socially unacceptable attitudes and practices, even when these are relatively benign.
I don't care if people shuck their cloaks, loose their pointy hats, stop dancing naked with their wands in hand and practice their arts in three piece suits, in board rooms, or on a computer, or whatever. However, it troubles me deeply when people do that to make themselves more acceptable to the general populace, or the media. It troubles me even more when witches start aping bureaucracy and organised religion
> This is why organisations like PAN have to be inclusive of the
> views of the whole spectrum, from 'suckers' to blow-hards. ;-)
I'm not sure that calling people 'suckers' or blow-hards is all that inclusive!?
The good thing about PAN, IMO, is that (in my understanding)it places itself an educational rather than a religious organisation. I think this completely changes the dynamic and protects if from sombunall (some but not all) of the more egregious problems exhibited by mobunall religious organisations.
(B) (B)
H
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "vicpagan" thepaganz@hotmail.com vicpagan
Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:45 am (PDT)
Hi Tim
You wrote:
>
> Hel! yeah!
>
> I'd venture to suggest that this has to do with quite a few things, ...(snipped for brevity).
Maybe the rapid growth of interest has a lot to do with it. But I think it will sort itself out, unless it turns into another organised religion!
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "vicpagan" thepaganz@hotmail.com vicpagan
Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:17 am (PDT)
Hi Bill
You wrote:-
Some reasons might be...
>
> It became trendy to be a Witch.
LOL! But only a good one!
> The great risks faced by those of us who were in the past have gone.
Hmm, could be. However, there is still plenty of risk to being a witch/pagan etc. in some parts of the U.S. and they seem to still have the same issues we do.
> Confusion as to exact definition of "Witch".
We'll have to agree to differ here, I can't fit 'exact definition' and 'Witch' together in any meaningfull sense. For me the essence of witchcraft is 'mystery'!
> Lack of opportunity for proper training and the unwillingness to make the sacrifices and be dedicated enough to undertake the training.
I agree that a lot of approaches to teaching witchcraft have dumbed things down to a worrying degree. But I also suspect that past attempts to impose some sort of witchey orthodoxy on the craft had a direct effect on the explosion of fluff that is evident in some (but not all) books.
I wonder, perhaps if seekers stopped slavishly following other peoples visions and looked to them more for inspiration than absolutes if there would then be a lot more depth and creativity in the craft
> The old .."Which Witch is which" conundrum.
I prefer not to judge, at least not out loud. I just want to ensure that they don't rain on my perambulations!
> People who are NOT real and who know not their bums from their elbows writing books filled with absolute nonsense that are read by hopefuls.
I agree that there is a lot of crap out there! The trouble is that over the years my opinion about what is and is not rubbish has changed a lot!
> The misconception held by many that "Witch" and "Pagan " are one and the same.
Yep, I have to agree this notion has caused a lot of unnecessary confusion
> I can go on, but wont...Probable ruffled enough feathers and crushed velvet already....Bill.
Oh I don't think a bit of judicious ruffling never did anyone much harm!
BB
Hawthorn
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "Jess Steers" jess@tascommodores.com circle_of_the_shadows
Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:23 pm (PDT)
Organised?! Pagans couldn't get organised if their lives depended on it! Lol
I think we're safe, for now.
Jess
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Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: Wytchcraeft
Hi Tim
You wrote:
>
> Hel! yeah!
>
> I'd venture to suggest that this has to do with quite a few things,
...(snipped for brevity).
Maybe the rapid growth of interest has a lot to do with it. But I think it
will sort itself out, unless it turns into another organised religion!
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "firewuff" firewuff@gmail.com firewuff
Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:28 pm (PDT)
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , "vicpagan" <thepaganz@.com ..> wrote:
>
> What I want to know is. Why do so many people become witches, and then try to suck all of the magick and maddness out of it? IO PANNE!!
>
> (B)aphomet (B)lessings!
>
Because they're dicks?... sorry human. Seriously in a lot of cases it's pure ego and a need to feel special. It a terrbile process to witness but I've seen exactly the same types of behavior in pretty much every social group at one time or another. I do think that for what ever reason that pagans in general are more tollerant of it and let situations go too far before standing up and saying "this is not acceptable". I don't know if this is fear of stomping on some one elses practice or what but i think ultimately it's destructive.
BRETT
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "John Elder" jelder@theage.com.au
Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:58 pm (PDT)
thumbs up to that.
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Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Re: Wytchcraeft
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. <mailto:WitchesWorkcom shop%40yahoogrou ps.com>, "vicpagan" <thepaganz@. ..> wrote:
>
> What I want to know is. Why do so many people become witches, and then try to suck all of the magick and maddness out of it? IO PANNE!!
>
> (B)aphomet (B)lessings!
>
Because they're dicks?... sorry human. Seriously in a lot of cases it's pure ego and a need to feel special. It a terrbile process to witness but I've seen exactly the same types of behavior in pretty much every social group at one time or another. I do think that for what ever reason that pagans in general are more tollerant of it and let situations go too far before standing up and saying "this is not acceptable". I don't know if this is fear of stomping on some one elses practice or what but i think ultimately it's destructive.
BRETT
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "xxxxxxminkaxxxxxx" gilligantor@yahoo.com.au xxxxxxminkaxxxxxx
Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:01 pm (PDT)
Why, what happened?
Or more specifically what didn't happen?
Minka
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , "vicpagan" <thepaganz@.com ..> wrote:
>
> What I want to know is. Why do so many people become witches, and then try to suck all of the magick and maddness out of it? IO PANNE!!
>
> (B)aphomet (B)lessings!
>
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Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "Media Officer" media@paganawareness.net.au pan_inc_media
Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:17 pm (PDT)
Hi Hawthorn,
You wrote:
>
> I have to admit though that I find the growing trend towards the 'normalisation' witchcraft a bit worrisome. Particularly as I perceive an associated tendency to marginalise socially unacceptable attitudes and practices, even when these are relatively benign.
>
My thinking is a bit different. When I wear my media officer hat I operate under a few assumptions. First, that witchcraft and Pagan spirituality in general are perfectly normal and natural forms of religious expression. Second, that many if not most people in the broader community don't understand that - hence the mockery on one hand or the fear and projection on the other. Third, that the broader community is capable of questioning its previous assumptions about us if we put out information that they can understand and relate to.
>>However, it troubles me deeply when people do that to make themselves more acceptable to the general populace, or the media. It troubles me even more when witches start aping bureaucracy and organised religion
>
I'll be sure to mention that to the PAN national committee :-P
Seriously, though, I do agree with you to a great extent, but at the same time a bit of organization helps your efforts be more effective when you have a genuine desire to effect positive change.
I also think it is easy to be dismissive of mainstream attitudes towards witchcraft and Paganism when you are an autonomous adult. This autonomy means you are less likely to come into contact with people whose attitudes towards Paganism may affect you directly. It can be a very different story for young witches and Pagans, for those with mental illnesses or physical disabilities, for hospital patients, for Police or ADF personnel, and possibly the unemployed. For these people, how the media portrays us and the populace views us can have direct impacts. This is why things like Census statistics, visibility at interfaith events, lines of communication with govt departments and so on really matter.
> > This is why organisations like PAN have to be inclusive of the
> > views of the whole spectrum, from 'suckers' to blow-hards. ;-)
>
> I'm not sure that calling people 'suckers' or blow-hards is all that inclusive!?
>
I'm just a sucker for a good line, and you opened the door by referring to people who suck! ;-)
> The good thing about PAN, IMO, is that (in my understanding)it >places itself an educational rather than a religious organisation.
Absolutely the case. The other part of its mission is to foster the growth of the Pagan community in Australia.
One of the issues we've faced with that is the minimal culture of service to others within the Pagan community. If there is a need to get something done it can often be the same old faces (and despite your protestations yours is often one of them) turning up to pitch in.
Maybe that lack of service to others is partly due to the experiential and mystical nature of Pagan practice, which lends itself to self-centredness - or perhaps better to say inwardness - ? This may not be conducive to community-building. Perhaps the future lies in fostering more of a service-culture while keeping true to the experiential core?
Gavin.
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Re: Whych craft ?
Posted by: "carteblanche13" carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au carteblanche13
Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:49 pm (PDT)
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , "Jess Steers" <jess@...> wrote:com
> (Tim wrote:)
>
> Maybe the rapid growth of interest has a lot to do with it. But I think it will sort itself out, unless it turns into another organised religion!
> (Jess wrote)
>Organised?! Pagans couldn't get organised if their lives depended on it! Lol I think we're safe, for now.
> Jess
LOL Jess - as the late, and truly great, Terence McKenna, once said :
"Well, if I were dependent on the notion that human institutions are necessary to pull us out of the ditch, I would be very despairing. As I've said, NOBODY is in charge. Not the IMF, the Pope, the Communist Party… no, no. Nobody has their finger on what's going on. So then, why hope? Isn't it just a runaway train out of control? I don't think so. I think the out-of-control-ness is the most hopeful thing about it. After all, WHOSE control is it out of? You and I never controlled it in the first place. Why are we anxious about the fact that it's out of control? I think if it's out of control, then our side is winning."
I think there is something beautifully Pagan about this!
Also:
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , "vicpagan" <thepaganz@.com ..> wrote:
>
> I wonder, perhaps if seekers stopped slavishly following other peoples visions and looked to them more for inspiration than absolutes if there would then be a lot more depth and creativity in the craft.
Well said !
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Virgins was Re: Wytchcraeft
Posted by: "vicpagan" thepaganz@hotmail.com vicpagan
Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:18 am (PDT)
Hi
C.B
You wrote:-
> ...the shortage of Virgins doesn't help!
I'm syure there is a spell for restoring that!
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Re: Taxation dept may finally recognise Paganism as a valid religion
Posted by: "firewuff" firewuff@gmail.com firewuff
Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:23 pm (PDT)
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , John Elder <jelder@...> wrote:com
> 6. The real problem here is the story did have a sense of humour, but not marked by unkindness. The ATO spokeswoman was a good sport. You might take a leaf out of her book. Because this is what the complainers can't stand -- anything less than a po-faced approach. B-O-R-I-N-G.
>
John, really glad to see that you sought permission etc. Far too many journos take the easy route these days.
I do take slight issue with this last point, in only so far that it is possible to make a story interesting without becomming sensational. Yes it's very cute to ask the ATO if they are under a spell but to be frank would you write the same thing about a Christian group who were praying for a result? it in many ways amounts to the same thing.
I don't have a huge issue with you being here but it would be nice to see the practices of this group treated with the same level of respect as other religions.
BRETT
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Re: Taxation dept may finally recognise Paganism as a valid religion
Posted by: "John Elder" jelder@theage.com.au
Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:02 pm (PDT)
i recently wrote a story about catholic sainthood, which i began by comparing the trials of hermione granger with st hermione who was cooked in a cauldron.
In the election campaign when I interviewed pagans and christians about Gillard's atheism i gave danny nalliah a well-deserved sendup and, i can't remember exactly what i asked the senior bishop of the anglicans, but it was something suitably cheeky.
it is very much my style.
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--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. <mailto:WitchesWorkcom shop%40yahoogrou ps.com>, John Elder <jelder@...> wrote:
> 6. The real problem here is the story did have a sense of humour, but not marked by unkindness. The ATO spokeswoman was a good sport. You might take a leaf out of her book. Because this is what the complainers can't stand -- anything less than a po-faced approach. B-O-R-I-N-G.
>
John, really glad to see that you sought permission etc. Far too many journos take the easy route these days.
I do take slight issue with this last point, in only so far that it is possible to make a story interesting without becomming sensational. Yes it's very cute to ask the ATO if they are under a spell but to be frank would you write the same thing about a Christian group who were praying for a result? it in many ways amounts to the same thing.
I don't have a huge issue with you being here but it would be nice to see the practices of this group treated with the same level of respect as other religions.
BRETT
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Re: Taxation dept may finally recognise Paganism as a valid religion
Posted by: "Media Officer" media@paganawareness.net.au pan_inc_media
Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:04 am (PDT)
Hi Nan,
You wrote:
> I would welcome reports on Paganism and its various branches written in the
> same respectful way as other religions.
> I've always worked on the theory that the real function of a good journalist
> is to keep the bastards honest, to inform and to write balanced and ethical
> pieces, not to twist a story at the expense of the truth or a decent
> understanding of the subject.
>
To try and foster this PAN has developed online resources for journalists and other interested parties on our website. See:
http://www.paganawareness.net. au/PAN//content/ view/130/ 1/
You, Tim, and others who take an interest in how Pagans are reported in the media may be especially interested in the section titled "Myths, clichés and reporting – a guide for the media" In it we've listed some of the ways ill-informed or malicious journalists have 'sledged' us over the years.
These include:
* Referring to Paganism or witchcraft as a 'cult'.
* Doing a story about Pagans then going to Christian clergy for comment so as to promote controversy
* Throwing around terms like 'white witch' and 'black witch' indiscriminately
* Using cliches like bed-knobs, broomsticks, cauldrons, warts, the words `ding' and `dong', `bubble' and `trouble', capes, pointy hats, spells etc to cue the reader to see witchcraft and those who practice it in a less-than-serious light
* Doing the story at Halloween
* Implying that Pagan practices might be dangerous
And my personal pet-hate...
* Referring to one of us as a 'self-proclaimed witch'. (Can you imagine any publication referring to someone as a self-proclaimed Christian/Jew/Muslim/Hindu/ etc/etc/etc? )
We'll continue to expand this area of the PAN site with additional information and resources, but naturally we'd like to see the myths, clichés and reporting section become obsolete.
Gavin Andrew
PAN Media Officer.
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Remembrance List - research needed
Posted by: "frances_tdm" lunanoire1@adam.com.au frances_tdm
Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:51 pm (PDT)
Greetings All
I thought I had posted a similar request but can't seem to find it in the archives so thought I would forward an email I have also received re the "Samhain" Remembrance List. Yes, I know that it's Bealtaine here in the Southern Hemisphere but there is a list being constructed and, well the rest is in the email.
BB - Frances
Greetings all,
Posted below is an email I received on the Yahoo Group Email_Witches from George Knowles, the owner of the group and the related website:
www.controverscial.com
George has asked if help can be provided with the making of a remembrance list of past pagan pioneers, founders and elders. Please, if anyone can make any recommendations for additions to the list appearing below, it would be very much appreciated - either by posting here at WitchesWorkshop, or emailing myself direct at
grahfurn@yahoo.com.au
or George at
themaninblackuk2001@yahoo.com
Where possible, please provide their names, dates of birth/death, and a brief note about who they were and why they should be included.
Many thanks and blessings, Graham.
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Re: Remembrance List - research needed
Posted by: "frances_tdm" lunanoire1@adam.com.au frances_tdm
Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:53 pm (PDT)
Sorry - forgot to mention that two names came to my mind when George contacted me were Hummy and Simon Goodman.
If anyone is able to provide a short bio about these two gentlemen for George, it would also be most appreciated.
BB - Frances
--- In WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. , "frances_tdm" <lunanoire1@com ...> wrote:
>
> Greetings All
>
> I thought I had posted a similar request but can't seem to find it in the archives so thought I would forward an email I have also received re the "Samhain" Remembrance List. Yes, I know that it's Bealtaine here in the Southern Hemisphere but there is a list being constructed and, well the rest is in the email.
>
> BB - Frances
>
>
> Greetings all,
>
> Posted below is an email I received on the Yahoo Group Email_Witches from George Knowles, the owner of the group and the related website:
>
> www.controverscial.com
>
> George has asked if help can be provided with the making of a remembrance list of past pagan pioneers, founders and elders. Please, if anyone can make any recommendations for additions to the list appearing below, it would be very much appreciated - either by posting here at WitchesWorkshop, or emailing myself direct at
>
> grahfurn@...
>
> or George at
>
> themaninblackuk2001@...
>
> Where possible, please provide their names, dates of birth/death, and a brief note about who they were and why they should be included.
>
> Many thanks and blessings, Graham.
>
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Obituary for a Psychic Octopus
Posted by: "carteblanche13" carteblanche13@yahoo.com.au carteblanche13
Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:45 pm (PDT)
Sisters and Brothers of the Nameless Faith,
It is my grim duty to here record the passing of a Witch of the Mollusc kingdom.
Paul the Psychic Octopus, who correctly predicted the winner of every World Cup match involving Germany as well as of the Final - an astonishing predictive success rate of 100% for the World Cup, and 86% overall (including other tournaments), which I think you'll agree is quite intimidating for a mollusc using direct prescience - passed away peacefully in his tank in Oberhausen on Monday of natural causes - he was quite old for his kind, having retired from active participation in the international occult-sporting world in July.
In a somewhat slippery slap in the face for the Spanish Inquisition, he had even been made an honorary citizen of a Spanish town - although he also suffered his share of persecution from the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinnerjacket, who accused him of spreading decadent Western propaganda. Sadly, the burning times are not too distant in some parts of the world.
Aunty has the details:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ world-europe- 11626050
"The Hawaiian creation myth relates that the present cosmos is only the last of a series, having arisen in stages from the wreck of the previous universe. In this account, the octopus is the lone survivor of the previous, alien universe." (Wikipedia)
Perhaps that's where all the magic octopi go when they die in this one?
A moment's silence, if you will, in the name of Mighty Cthulhu!
Ia! Ia f'tagn!
C.B.
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Re: Obituary for a Psychic Octopus
Posted by: "John Elder" jelder@theage.com.au
Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:02 pm (PDT)
apparently the last words were: ``glub glub''. apparentlty this translates to ``the pressure got too much.''
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Sisters and Brothers of the Nameless Faith,
It is my grim duty to here record the passing of a Witch of the Mollusc kingdom.
Paul the Psychic Octopus, who correctly predicted the winner of every World Cup match involving Germany as well as of the Final - an astonishing predictive success rate of 100% for the World Cup, and 86% overall (including other tournaments), which I think you'll agree is quite intimidating for a mollusc using direct prescience - passed away peacefully in his tank in Oberhausen on Monday of natural causes - he was quite old for his kind, having retired from active participation in the international occult-sporting world in July.
In a somewhat slippery slap in the face for the Spanish Inquisition, he had even been made an honorary citizen of a Spanish town - although he also suffered his share of persecution from the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinnerjacket, who accused him of spreading decadent Western propaganda. Sadly, the burning times are not too distant in some parts of the world.
Aunty has the details:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ world-europe- 11626050
"The Hawaiian creation myth relates that the present cosmos is only the last of a series, having arisen in stages from the wreck of the previous universe. In this account, the octopus is the lone survivor of the previous, alien universe." (Wikipedia)
Perhaps that's where all the magic octopi go when they die in this one?
A moment's silence, if you will, in the name of Mighty Cthulhu!
Ia! Ia f'tagn!
C.B.
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Re: Obituary for a Psychic Octopus
Posted by: "Tish" deborahs23@optusnet.com.au morticia_its_me
Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:31 pm (PDT)
Thanks C.B. best giggle I have had all day...
good one mate!!hehehe
cheers
Tish
-------Original Message-------
From: carteblanche13
Date: 27/10/2010 3:45:14 PM
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] Obituary for a Psychic Octopus
Sisters and Brothers of the Nameless Faith,
It is my grim duty to here record the passing of a Witch of the Mollusc
kingdom.
Paul the Psychic Octopus, who correctly predicted the winner of every World
Cup match involving Germany as well as of the Final - an astonishing
predictive success rate of 100% for the World Cup, and 86% overall
(including other tournaments), which I think you'll agree is quite
intimidating for a mollusc using direct prescience - passed away peacefully
in his tank in Oberhausen on Monday of natural causes - he was quite old for
his kind, having retired from active participation in the international
occult-sporting world in July.
In a somewhat slippery slap in the face for the Spanish Inquisition, he had
even been made an honorary citizen of a Spanish town - although he also
suffered his share of persecution from the President of the Islamic Republic
of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinnerjacket, who accused him of spreading decadent
Western propaganda. Sadly, the burning times are not too distant in some
parts of the world.
Aunty has the details:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ world-europe- 11626050
"The Hawaiian creation myth relates that the present cosmos is only the last
of a series, having arisen in stages from the wreck of the previous universe
In this account, the octopus is the lone survivor of the previous, alien
universe." (Wikipedia)
Perhaps that's where all the magic octopi go when they die in this one?
A moment's silence, if you will, in the name of Mighty Cthulhu!
Ia! Ia f'tagn!
C.B.
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