Messages In This Digest (17 Messages)
- 1.
- Slightly OT Georgia Representative Disses Tornado Victims From: Lady Nightshayde
- 2a.
- Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only From: Lady Nightshayde
- 2b.
- Re: Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only From: leann_1014@yahoo.com
- 3.
- DailyOM: Exploring the Soul From: Beth Patterson
- 4.1.
- Fw: Daily Ray of Hope From: Beth Patterson
- 5a.
- Re: Physicist Stephen Hawking Rejects Idea of "Afterlife" From: Carol
- 6a.
- Re: The Wedding Pictures From: LadyFromDover@aol.com
- 7.1.
- Re: Topic Tag From: LadyFromDover@aol.com
- 7.2.
- Re: Topic Tag From: Lady Nightshayde
- 7.3.
- Re: Topic Tag From: Beth Patterson
- 7.4.
- Re: Topic Tag From: Ani
- 9.
- OT - Fw: That was only 56 years ago!! Wow, lo... From: Beth Patterson
- 10.
- Names for Healing Circle, 5/18/2011, 12:00 am From: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
- 11.
- (no subject) From: amy wimmer
Messages
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Slightly OT Georgia Representative Disses Tornado Victims
Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99
Tue May 17, 2011 10:46 am (PDT)
Georgia Rep Disses Tornado Victims
DISCLAIMER: This post is informational only, not for political discussion..
By Patti Wigington, About.com Guide May 11, 2011
From the So Insensitive You Can't Believe He Went There files, Georgia Representative Bobby Franklin commented last week that all those folks who were victims of the recent tornado damage were "praying to their god, FEMA," and it saddened his heart. Just in case you're not sure who Franklin is, he's the guy who suggested last year that women might need to face criminal charges after a miscarriage, and he would like people who are raped to be described as "accusers" rather than victims.
Franklin is part of the ever-expanding Christian Reconstructionist movement, and if you're not aware of who these folks are, you should be. Religion Dispatches Julie Ingersoll describes the Reconstructionist worldview as follows: In this view, God has ordained three distinctly different spheres of authority (three different governments) with delineated responsibilities: the family, the church, and the civil government. When one of these institutions intrudes on the authority of another it is considered tyranny. When a person relies on the sphere of government to do things that God has not assigned to it, he or she is seeking salvation from it rather than submitting to God's design.
The Georgia Politico calls Franklin out for his FEMA comment, saying, "Representative Franklin's remarks are not only offensive to the people who are working hard to help people put their lives back together, but also his fellow Christians across the south who have had their houses blown away and are accepting help from their fellow Americans. I wonder what Representative Franklin is doing to help?"
Meanwhile, something to consider is this. If you're a voter, is that the sort of person you want making legislative decisions on your behalf?
The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.
Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde
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Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde
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- 2a.
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Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only
Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99
Tue May 17, 2011 10:50 am (PDT)
Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only
By Patti Wigington, About.com Guide May 14, 2011
Here's an interesting twist in the whole "should we have a prayer before meetings or not" dilemma. Some municipalities choose to eliminate prayers altogether, opting instead for a moment of silence, in which participants can pray of they choose, or just figure out what they need from the grocery store on the way home. Others go for the crazy notion of treating everyone as equally welcome, and allow representatives from a variety of religions to deliver opening prayers.
Now, in Maryland, the Frederick County Commissioners have adopted a new interpretation of this, when board members voted 3-to-2 to "invite religious leaders to attend their meetings to invoke "divine guidance" for the commissioners and their deliberations." Here's the catch. The ministers must be "ordained and affiliated with a monotheistic religion with an established congregation in Frederick County. Their prayers must avoid referring to any particular religion, denomination or sect."
So, while the new policy prohibits the invoking of a specific deity, it also makes it very clear that anyone who is a polytheist is out of luck. In addition to being a "Wiccan-proof" policy, it also excludes pretty much any Pagan religion that honors multiple deities, or that does not have an "established congregation."
The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.
Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde
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Re: Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only
Posted by: "leann_1014@yahoo.com" leann_1014@yahoo.com leann_1014
Tue May 17, 2011 11:04 am (PDT)
Ugh!
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Subject: [13Witches] Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only
Opening Prayer Restricted to Monotheists Only
By Patti Wigington, About.com Guide May 14, 2011
Here's an interesting twist in the whole "should we have a prayer before meetings or not" dilemma. Some municipalities choose to eliminate prayers altogether, opting instead for a moment of silence, in which participants can pray of they choose, or just figure out what they need from the grocery store on the way home. Others go for the crazy notion of treating everyone as equally welcome, and allow representatives from a variety of religions to deliver opening prayers.
Now, in Maryland, the Frederick County Commissioners have adopted a new interpretation of this, when board members voted 3-to-2 to "invite religious leaders to attend their meetings to invoke "divine guidance" for the commissioners and their deliberations." Here's the catch. The ministers must be "ordained and affiliated with a monotheistic religion with an established congregation in Frederick County. Their prayers must avoid referring to any particular religion, denomination or sect."
So, while the new policy prohibits the invoking of a specific deity, it also makes it very clear that anyone who is a polytheist is out of luck. In addition to being a "Wiccan-proof" policy, it also excludes pretty much any Pagan religion that honors multiple deities, or that does not have an "established congregation."
The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.
Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde
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http://groups.yahoo/group/ NightshaydesNews
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DailyOM: Exploring the Soul
Posted by: "Beth Patterson" purrrpaws4444@yahoo.com purrrpaws4444
Tue May 17, 2011 11:14 am (PDT)
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May 17, 2011
Exploring the Soul
Living a Spiritual Life
Remembering who we really are is the first step in awakening to our spiritual path.
Throughout the journey from birth to death, many people choose to question life, strive for improvement, seek out knowledge, and search for the divine. Simply put, this is the essence of spirituality. One's spiritual practice can take on many forms, because embracing the spiritual is a very personal pursuit. While many people do relate their spirituality to a God or Goddess, this quest for the divine, or oneness with the universe, always springs from within. It doesn't matter where you find your spiritual path. We are all fundamentally spiritual beings and the essence of that lies in knowing one's true self and finding a peace that comes from within rather than the outside world. It is in remembering this that we awaken to our personal path.
The spiritual path springs forth from a daily routine that reaffirms our personal connection with a purpose or a way of life. Practicing compassion, gratitude, appreciation, forgiveness, generosity, meditation, and taking care of one's wellbeing can all be a part of one's spiritual life. If you are new to exploring your personal spirituality, remember that this is a process. You may want to spend a few moments each day giving yourself a spiritual gift. Try a new form of meditation, visit a sanctuary, or explore a specific deity.
Accepting the importance of spirituality can be a healthy decision, because a spiritual practice tends to include habits that promote healthy living. Take the time to carefully determine the action, thought, and ritual that most speaks to your soul. Remember that your most profound spiritual experiences may also come from the simple intricacies that make up your life. See the interconnectedness of all things. As you explore your "inner work," you will be walking your spiritual path and feeling your oneness with the universe.
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Fw: Daily Ray of Hope
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- 5a.
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Re: Physicist Stephen Hawking Rejects Idea of "Afterlife"
Posted by: "Carol" hawkshill13@yahoo.com hawkshill13
Tue May 17, 2011 12:52 pm (PDT)
Thanks for this article. Although I believe that life is a gift and should be cherished, I like to believe in an afterlife as well. Personally, I think it's a good idea for us to live this life like it's the only one we'll ever get so we are certain to make the best of it. That's just my feelings on the subject. Thanks again for posting.
BB,
Hawkshill
--- In 13Witches@yahoogroups.com , Lady Nightshayde <LadyNightshayde9@...> wrote:
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> Interesting Article
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> http://content.usatoday. com/communities/ ondeadline/ post/2011/ 05/cosmologist- stephen-hawking- rejects-heaven- or-afterlife- as-a-fairy- story/1?csp= mostpopular
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> The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.
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> Love Each Day,
> Lady Nightshayde
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/13Witches/
> http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/Whispering Witches/
> http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/MagickalMe als/
> http://groups.yahoo/group/ NightshaydesNews
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Re: The Wedding Pictures
Posted by: "LadyFromDover@aol.com" LadyFromDover@aol.com ladyfromdover
Tue May 17, 2011 1:17 pm (PDT)
the photos are lovely, thank you for sharing.
Pam.
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Re: Topic Tag
Posted by: "LadyFromDover@aol.com" LadyFromDover@aol.com ladyfromdover
Tue May 17, 2011 1:29 pm (PDT)
OH MY, LET ME THINK,
W hen my kids were small I let them choose their own path, but still had
them involved in my short rituals and answered their questions , out of
my 4 kids just one has chosen the same beliefs as me the others chose a
Christian faith, but have a good and positive understanding of mine, so my
topic is how do you feel about kids that may choose a different path to yours?
Pam. - 7.2.
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Re: Topic Tag
Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99
Tue May 17, 2011 2:27 pm (PDT)
OH MY, LET ME THINK,
W hen my kids were small I let them choose their own path, but still had them involved in my short rituals and answered their questions , out of my 4 kids just one has chosen the same beliefs as me the others chose a Christian faith, but have a good and positive understanding of mine, so my topic is how do you feel about kids that may choose a different path to yours?
Pam.
When my kids were growing up, they took part in many of my rituals and celebrations. Parents of most religions bring up their children in their particular one, and I did also. They had several friends who shared our path, but most did not. Their friends always enjoyed being at our house because "this is so cool, your Mom is a Witch." Sadly, their parents didn't agree, and forbade any contact. I encouraged my children to learn about and take part in other faiths' activities, which they did. Some of them went to church from time to time. Scarlette told me at Miranda's wedding that she went to vacation bible school for the snacks. I just had to laugh about that one.
Scarlette was always the one who couldn't absorb enough about Witchcraft, and she says she is "the chosen one" in our family, LOL! Her husband is Christian, and she is teaching their children about both beliefs. Amber is also Pagan and is raising her children that way. Amber's husband is agnostic. Her son Alex told me a few nights ago that he wanted a necklace "just like Mom's" (he always heard my kids calling me mom, so he started calling me Mom. His mom is Mommy). I asked him if he knew what the pentacle meant, and he rolled his eyes at me and said "Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and Spirit, you already know that." So we are going shopping for one for him. Tiffany (whose middle birth name is Rhiannon) is Pagan/Christian; her husband is Christian and their children are Christian.. Aimee calls herself a "lazy Pagan" and her husband is Christian. Their children are Christian. Miranda loves nature, but says she just doesn't subscribe to the politics of organized religion. Her hubby is much the same. Rhaynee is a "dabbler," still trying to find herself at age 19. Travis was Pagan, but turned to Christianity, at her urging, when he met his Christian wife. Now we hardly ever speak. I wasn't even invited to their wedding. And that really hurt me.
I would have preferred them all to follow my path, but I encouraged them to follow their own. Every one of them except my son has always defended my Witchiness.
The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.
Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde
- 7.3.
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Re: Topic Tag
Posted by: "Beth Patterson" purrrpaws4444@yahoo.com purrrpaws4444
Tue May 17, 2011 5:04 pm (PDT)
I feel we should all have the freedom to choose our own path. When kids are young I believe they should be given access to learning about many different religions/paths and allowed to make their own choice and be accepted and honored for whatever they choose.
Beth
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--- On Tue, 5/17/11, LadyFromDover@aol.com <LadyFromDover@aol.com > wrote:
so my topic is how do you feel about kids that may choose a different path to yours?
Pam.
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Re: Topic Tag
Posted by: "Ani" ani_shadowdragon@peoplepc.com mystressacksunamoon
Tue May 17, 2011 5:54 pm (PDT)
Spirituality by definition is very personal, so I have always taught that it matters not what path you choose, as long as you choose one. Divine doesn't care about the religious part of any path, what matters is building a relationship with God/Goddess or whatever you feel comfortable calling him/her.
Blessings
Ani
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To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [13Witches] Topic Tag
OH MY, LET ME THINK,
W hen my kids were small I let them choose their own path, but still had them involved in my short rituals and answered their questions , out of my 4 kids just one has chosen the same beliefs as me the others chose a Christian faith, but have a good and positive understanding of mine, so my topic is how do you feel about kids that may choose a different path to yours?
Pam.
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topic
Posted by: "lionaire" lion1@embarqmail.com lionaire1
Tue May 17, 2011 1:54 pm (PDT)
My kids are all adults, but they are ok with me being a witch. The only one that even goes to church has now become a Baptist and is really into religion..his wife even moreso. They haven't said anything to me..and the Goddess might become really upset if they do.
Lionaire aka Pat
The problem isn't getting old,
It's getting ourselves to accept it.
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Re: topic
Posted by: "joi" joisrose@yahoo.com joisrose
Tue May 17, 2011 1:58 pm (PDT)
My sons are grown and one seems to have taken umbrage at my being a witch. His
brother on the other hand is a Pagan seer/channeler. Welcome to my world.
Meanwhile back at the cauldron...the youngest child of my olders son has been
calling birds of prey since she was an hour old.
joi
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To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 4:54:32 PM
Subject: [13Witches] topic
My kids are all adults, but they are ok with me being a witch. The only one
that even goes to church has now become a Baptist and is really into
religion..his wife even moreso. They haven't said anything to me..and the
Goddess might become really upset if they do.
Lionaire aka Pat
The problem isn't getting old,
It's getting ourselves to accept it.
Anonymous
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Re: topic
Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99
Tue May 17, 2011 2:29 pm (PDT)
the youngest child of my olders son has been calling birds of prey since she was an hour old.
And the children shall lead....
The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.
Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde
http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/13Witches/
http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/Whispering Witches/
http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/MagickalMe als/
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-----Original Message-----
From: joi <joisrose@yahoo.com >
To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: [13Witches] topic
My sons are grown and one seems to have taken umbrage at my being a witch. His brother on the other hand is a Pagan seer/channeler. Welcome to my world. Meanwhile back at the cauldron...the youngest child of my olders son has been calling birds of prey since she was an hour old.
joi
From: lionaire <lion1@embarqmail.com >
To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 17, 2011 4:54:32 PM
Subject: [13Witches] topic
My kids are all adults, but they are ok with me being a witch. The only one that even goes to church has now become a Baptist and is really into religion..his wife even moreso. They haven't said anything to me..and the Goddess might become really upset if they do.
Lionaire aka Pat
The problem isn't getting old,
It's getting ourselves to accept it.
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OT - Fw: That was only 56 years ago!! Wow, lo...
Posted by: "Beth Patterson" purrrpaws4444@yahoo.com purrrpaws4444
Tue May 17, 2011 5:13 pm (PDT)
-------Original Message-------
Subject: Fwd: FW: That was only 56 years ago!!
Comments made in the year 1955!
'I'll tell you one thing, if things
Keep going the way they are,
it's going to be impossible to
Buy a week's groceries for $10.00. '
'Have you seen the new cars
Coming out next year? It won't
Be long before $1, 000.00 will
Only buy a used one.'
'If cigarettes keep going up in
Price, I'm going to quit; 20 cents
A pack is ridiculous. '
'Did you hear the post office is
Thinking about charging 7 cents
Just to mail a letter.'
'If they raise the minimum wage
To $1.00, nobody will be able to
Hire outside help at the store.'
'When I first started driving, who
Would have thought gas would
Someday cost 25 cents a gallon.
Guess we'd be better off leaving
The car in the garage.'
'I'm afraid to send my kids to the
Movies any more. Ever since they
Let Clark Gable get by with saying
DAMN in 'GONE WITH THE WIND',
It seems every new movie has
Either HELL or DAMN in it.'
'I read the other day where some
Scientist thinks it's possible to put
A man on the moon by the end of
The century. They even have some
Fellows they call astronauts
Preparing for it down in Texas .'
'Did you see where some baseball
Player just signed a contract for
$50,000 a year just to play ball?
It wouldn't surprise me if someday
they'll be making more than the
President. '
'I never thought I'd see the day
All our kitchen appliances would
Be electric. They are even making
Electric typewriters now. '
'It's too bad things are so tough
Nowadays. I see where a few
Married women are having to
Work to make ends meet. '
'It won't be long before young
Couples are going to have to hire
Someone to watch their kids so
They can both work.'
'I'm afraid the Volkswagen car
Is going to open the door to a
Whole lot of foreign business.'
'Thank goodness I won't live to
See the day when the Government
Takes half our income in taxes. I
Sometimes wonder if we are
Electing the best people to
Government.'
'The drive-in restaurant is
Convenient in nice weather,
But I seriously doubt they
Will ever catch on.'
'There is no sense going on short
Trips anymore for a weekend. It
Costs nearly $2.00 a night to stay
In a hotel.'
'No one can afford to be sick
Anymore. At $15.00 a day in
The hospital, it's too rich for
My blood.'
'If they think I'll pay 30 cents
For a hair cut, forget it.'
Yep, that's Elvis!
Know any friends
Who would get a
Kick out of these,
Pass this on!
Be sure and send it
To your kids and grandkids, too!
=
Beth
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Names for Healing Circle, 5/18/2011, 12:00 am
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Tue May 17, 2011 8:48 pm (PDT)
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Wed May 18, 2011 1:03 am (PDT)
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