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1a.: In need of some help From: kylie_kinsley
1b.: Re: In need of some help From: Blackbird
1c.: Re: In need of some help From: Jude DaShiell
1d.: Re: In need of some help From: aussiejooz

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1a.: In need of some help

Posted by: "kylie_kinsley" kylie_kinsley@yahoo.com kylie_kinsley

Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:35 pm (PDT)

Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm in desperate need of some answers or thoughts.
I've had strange happenings since I can remember. From the time I was young, weird things have always happened to me in the course of animals behaving strangely, when I'm upset or scared the light bulbs burn out and the TV has been known to turn off or on, things move. But not only that, I see "things." Cloudy things that are almost not there or just out of the corner of your eye. Lights around things that are not supposed to be there. I hear voices but they are like a forgotten dream, just on the verge of being remembered. They are loud and give you a jolt but you never can quite tell what they said, but you have a feeling that they've just shouted at you. I have this dream that doesn't occur as much anymore but I used to have it every night that I went to sleep when I was younger (now it seems only when I'm pregnant) that I'm in this vast space and i'm not connected to my body but I know I'm me. I hear people talking but cannot see anyone, and I just float. Sometimes these voices are in a different language, sometimes they know I'm there, sometimes they don't.
When In a large social setting, it drains me to be there because I hear people talking and I know they haven't said anything. But this isn't on command, any of this. It just happens.
I've tried channeling some of this energy into Tarot cards and they are eerily accurate to the point that my husband won't let me do them for him anymore.
But could this all be a part of my imagination? Am i just going crazy? Ha ha, sometimes I feel like I am and I don't talk about any of it with anybody except
my husband sometimes. I'm afraid that I'm loosing it.
Any insight that would help calm my fears would be greatly appreciated or even a "you're crazy:)" would be understandable, but at least I'd know.
Thank you all very much!
xoxo Kylie

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1b.: Re: In need of some help

Posted by: "Blackbird" blackbird_61@yahoo.com blackbird_61

Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:21 pm (PDT)

BB re: Hi Kylie,
First off let me say, your not Nuts, your not Loosing it, nor anything
like that ..

Certainly, I very much doubt it, if you were crazy; I very much expect
your dis-ease would seek to hide itself, but your lucid enough to come
here; your not hiding it, your seeking to understand it; I think thats a
very different thing.

But You do seem to have a very real, very powerful, but undisciplined
Psychic Talent that you definitely need to get a handle on; so I very
much recommend you use the resources Gaia has posted here before, and
hopefully will repost, for finding good competent Real Life Coven, you
might begin at Witch Vox; This Piece at About.com
<http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/wiccanandpaganrituals/a/HowToFindaCoven\
.htm> might be of some help too.

Honestly I think an Online group even WE (much as I love us) will not be
enough for you; because given the "Scary" experiences your having, your
going to need a in person guide to walk you through some things, and to
each you the exercises that will lead to the mentle discipline to turn
your Talent into an Asset. No one could teach Micheal Jordan Basketball
over the Internet; somethings must still be done IRL.

That Said,
Let me suggest something you might share with your husband. You
mentioned you do Scary Good; Tarot Readings, (Cool!) but why is it scary
they are so accurate....

The Scaryness comes from the fact that we have been taught all our lives
that we are all very seperate things, but your reading challange that
illusion, challanges us to rethink our reality, and consider if we are
all somehow intwined, thus you can know, what I know, because our
seperateness is an illustion; now thats a challanging/scary thought,

And honestly, that illusion gets a lot of help these days; Science Tells
we are Separate from each other, The Church Tells us we are Separate
from God; and our minute by minute experience does not contradict that
view; But Science also tells us at a Quantum level our seeming
separateness dissolves, and every Mystical tradition in the world in one
way or another tells us, it's not true; that there is an underlying
interconnectedness to all things;

You have a rare gift, you tap into that with the Tarot; You tap into
that when you here those voices on the edge of your awareness, on the
edge of your reality; that gift lays in being on 1/2 step closer to
that interconnectedness, on 1/2 step away from the seperateness than the
rest of us; ... this is not a curse, and it should not be scary;

Instead view it as evidence of your connection to all else, and
there-fore to Deity; and that is most beautiful.Of course your gift puts
your experience at odds with the Dominant Spiritually flat paradigm we
all live with – my advise to you is to put aside the Dogmas of
others and embrace your experience. I tend to use this Analogy, The
Skeptic is like the Color blind, he can only see Grey; You see Red, and
Green and Blue; but he only sees Grey; dont let the Skeptics convince
you there is no Blue, when you have seen Blue for yourself. Be gentle
and understand, the Skeptic is telling his truth when he says there is
no Blue; and he can never know there Is.

Now obviously if you told a totally skeptical Psychologist all this,
they would tell you I'm nuts and have you on meds for hearing voices
in no time; and I certainly do not have the legal standing to give you
medical advise, only a Doctor can legally do that; but as a person who
has had some small, not nearly so dramatic; experiences of that larger
reality myself; I honestly believe you would be doing yourself a huge
dis-service to smother such an amazing Talent under a blanket of Drugs.
Oh well it's very late so I will call it a night for tonight. I hope
this post helps. I hope You will reply and continue to post here.

Blessings, BB.

--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups.com, "kylie_kinsley"
<kylie_kinsley@...> wrote:
>
Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm in desperate need of some answers or
thoughts.
I've had strange happenings since I can remember. From the time I was
young,
weird things have always happened to me in the course of animals
behaving
strangely, when I'm upset or scared the light bulbs burn out and the TV
has been
known to turn off or on, things move. But not only that, I see "things."
Cloudy
things that are almost not there or just out of the corner of your eye.
Lights
around things that are not supposed to be there. I hear voices but they
are like
a forgotten dream, just on the verge of being remembered. They are loud
and give
you a jolt but you never can quite tell what they said, but you have a
feeling
that they've just shouted at you. I have this dream that doesn't occur
as much
anymore but I used to have it every night that I went to sleep when I
was
younger (now it seems only when I'm pregnant) that I'm in this vast
space and
i'm not connected to my body but I know I'm me. I hear people talking
but cannot
see anyone, and I just float. Sometimes these voices are in a different
language, sometimes they know I'm there, sometimes they don't.
When In a large social setting, it drains me to be there because I hear
people
talking and I know they haven't said anything. But this isn't on
command, any of
this. It just happens.

I've tried channeling some of this energy into Tarot cards and they are
eerily
accurate to the point that my husband won't let me do them for him
anymore.
But could this all be a part of my imagination? Am i just going crazy?
Ha ha,
sometimes I feel like I am and I don't talk about any of it with anybody
except
my husband sometimes. I'm afraid that I'm loosing it.

Any insight that would help calm my fears would be greatly appreciated
or even a
"you're crazy:)" would be understandable, but at least I'd know.
Thank you all very much!

xoxo Kylie

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1c.: Re: In need of some help

Posted by: "Jude DaShiell" jdashiel@shellworld.net

Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:59 am (PDT)

Those sound like the abilities Edgar Cayce was given and he was
successful helping many people with them before he moved on from this
life. The floating is either lucid dreaming or you are a frequent
flyer on the fly the astral skies plan in which case you can do astral
projection. That used to happen to me when I was younger and I have a
vivid memory of being in a long hall with spoked wheels on one side of
it and those spoked wheels turned in different directions like gears but
didn't touch each other and those wheels were on the wall. To the left of
me another being made physical contact and it was like a floating fleshy
landmine in shape but was not harmful and all you could hear in that room
was a huge continuous low rumble like a large powerful engine running
somewhere. If you get scared of where you floated, visualize your body
turning like you turn a radio dial and you'll move onto another place.
Also, before you leave visualize yourself taking a notebook and pen along
with you. When you wake up, having a notebook and pen near you will
enable you to document your journey. You may be able to help out with
that next Amber Alert with this ability. Just leave anonymous tips for
the authorities. If you're successful maybe one day they can learn who
you really are, but document the crime stopper numbers as you're given
them and on that day when you do become known to the authorities show them
that list of numbers. Best of luck and happy hunting to you!On Thu, 23
Jun 2011, kylie_kinsley wrote:

> Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm in desperate need of some answers or thoughts.
> I've had strange happenings since I can remember. From the time I was young, weird things have always happened to me in the course of animals behaving strangely, when I'm upset or scared the light bulbs burn out and the TV has been known to turn off or on, things move. But not only that, I see "things." Cloudy things that are almost not there or just out of the corner of your eye. Lights around things that are not supposed to be there. I hear voices but they are like a forgotten dream, just on the verge of being remembered. They are loud and give you a jolt but you never can quite tell what they said, but you have a feeling that they've just shouted at you. I have this dream that doesn't occur as much anymore but I used to have it every night that I went to sleep when I was younger (now it seems only when I'm pregnant) that I'm in this vast space and i'm not connected to my body but I know I'm me. I hear people talking but cannot see anyone, and I just float. Sometimes thes
e voices are in a different language, sometimes they know I'm there, sometimes they don't.
> When In a large social setting, it drains me to be there because I hear people talking and I know they haven't said anything. But this isn't on command, any of this. It just happens.
> I've tried channeling some of this energy into Tarot cards and they are eerily accurate to the point that my husband won't let me do them for him anymore.
> But could this all be a part of my imagination? Am i just going crazy? Ha ha, sometimes I feel like I am and I don't talk about any of it with anybody except
> my husband sometimes. I'm afraid that I'm loosing it.
> Any insight that would help calm my fears would be greatly appreciated or even a "you're crazy:)" would be understandable, but at least I'd know.
> Thank you all very much!
> xoxo Kylie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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1d.: Re: In need of some help

Posted by: "aussiejooz" aussiejo@live.com aussiejooz

Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:25 am (PDT)

Hi Kylie,
Please listen to "Blackbird" here, she has given you the best advice ever as follows:
"I honestly believe you would be doing yourself a huge dis-service to smother such an amazing Talent under a blanket of Drugs".

Just from my side of things, I have just gotten off an antidepressant that the doctors here in Australia PUSHED on me for the past 9 years to cure everything. It was very very hard physically and took over 8 months to complete the process.

I have since let go and let god and the universe take over, I am pretty much walking the same road as you are. I have deep gut feelings that can bring me down to my knees at times and I don't understand what is happening to me at the time they happen. I am in a life long search to find my own answers.

Seriously, keep searching and don't give up. You will eventually find the answer, find groups that you can open up in and discuss on your search.

God Bless,
Aussiejo
p.s. I live in Australia at the moment and found the 'Ministry of Angels' which is a spiritualist church and it is helping me very much.

--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups.com, "Blackbird" <blackbird_61@...> wrote:
>
>
> BB re: Hi Kylie,
> First off let me say, your not Nuts, your not Loosing it, nor anything
> like that ..
>
> Certainly, I very much doubt it, if you were crazy; I very much expect
> your dis-ease would seek to hide itself, but your lucid enough to come
> here; your not hiding it, your seeking to understand it; I think thats a
> very different thing.
>
> But You do seem to have a very real, very powerful, but undisciplined
> Psychic Talent that you definitely need to get a handle on; so I very
> much recommend you use the resources Gaia has posted here before, and
> hopefully will repost, for finding good competent Real Life Coven, you
> might begin at Witch Vox; This Piece at About.com
> <http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/wiccanandpaganrituals/a/HowToFindaCoven\
> .htm> might be of some help too.
>
> Honestly I think an Online group even WE (much as I love us) will not be
> enough for you; because given the "Scary" experiences your having, your
> going to need a in person guide to walk you through some things, and to
> each you the exercises that will lead to the mentle discipline to turn
> your Talent into an Asset. No one could teach Micheal Jordan Basketball
> over the Internet; somethings must still be done IRL.
>
> That Said,
> Let me suggest something you might share with your husband. You
> mentioned you do Scary Good; Tarot Readings, (Cool!) but why is it scary
> they are so accurate....
>
> The Scaryness comes from the fact that we have been taught all our lives
> that we are all very seperate things, but your reading challange that
> illusion, challanges us to rethink our reality, and consider if we are
> all somehow intwined, thus you can know, what I know, because our
> seperateness is an illustion; now thats a challanging/scary thought,
>
> And honestly, that illusion gets a lot of help these days; Science Tells
> we are Separate from each other, The Church Tells us we are Separate
> from God; and our minute by minute experience does not contradict that
> view; But Science also tells us at a Quantum level our seeming
> separateness dissolves, and every Mystical tradition in the world in one
> way or another tells us, it's not true; that there is an underlying
> interconnectedness to all things;
>
> You have a rare gift, you tap into that with the Tarot; You tap into
> that when you here those voices on the edge of your awareness, on the
> edge of your reality; that gift lays in being on 1/2 step closer to
> that interconnectedness, on 1/2 step away from the seperateness than the
> rest of us; ... this is not a curse, and it should not be scary;
>
> Instead view it as evidence of your connection to all else, and
> there-fore to Deity; and that is most beautiful.Of course your gift puts
> your experience at odds with the Dominant Spiritually flat paradigm we
> all live with – my advise to you is to put aside the Dogmas of
> others and embrace your experience. I tend to use this Analogy, The
> Skeptic is like the Color blind, he can only see Grey; You see Red, and
> Green and Blue; but he only sees Grey; dont let the Skeptics convince
> you there is no Blue, when you have seen Blue for yourself. Be gentle
> and understand, the Skeptic is telling his truth when he says there is
> no Blue; and he can never know there Is.
>
> Now obviously if you told a totally skeptical Psychologist all this,
> they would tell you I'm nuts and have you on meds for hearing voices
> in no time; and I certainly do not have the legal standing to give you
> medical advise, only a Doctor can legally do that; but as a person who
> has had some small, not nearly so dramatic; experiences of that larger
> reality myself; I honestly believe you would be doing yourself a huge
> dis-service to smother such an amazing Talent under a blanket of Drugs.
> Oh well it's very late so I will call it a night for tonight. I hope
> this post helps. I hope You will reply and continue to post here.
>
> Blessings, BB.
>
>
> --- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups.com, "kylie_kinsley"
> <kylie_kinsley@> wrote:
> >
> Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm in desperate need of some answers or
> thoughts.
> I've had strange happenings since I can remember. From the time I was
> young,
> weird things have always happened to me in the course of animals
> behaving
> strangely, when I'm upset or scared the light bulbs burn out and the TV
> has been
> known to turn off or on, things move. But not only that, I see "things."
> Cloudy
> things that are almost not there or just out of the corner of your eye.
> Lights
> around things that are not supposed to be there. I hear voices but they
> are like
> a forgotten dream, just on the verge of being remembered. They are loud
> and give
> you a jolt but you never can quite tell what they said, but you have a
> feeling
> that they've just shouted at you. I have this dream that doesn't occur
> as much
> anymore but I used to have it every night that I went to sleep when I
> was
> younger (now it seems only when I'm pregnant) that I'm in this vast
> space and
> i'm not connected to my body but I know I'm me. I hear people talking
> but cannot
> see anyone, and I just float. Sometimes these voices are in a different
> language, sometimes they know I'm there, sometimes they don't.
> When In a large social setting, it drains me to be there because I hear
> people
> talking and I know they haven't said anything. But this isn't on
> command, any of
> this. It just happens.
>
> I've tried channeling some of this energy into Tarot cards and they are
> eerily
> accurate to the point that my husband won't let me do them for him
> anymore.
> But could this all be a part of my imagination? Am i just going crazy?
> Ha ha,
> sometimes I feel like I am and I don't talk about any of it with anybody
> except
> my husband sometimes. I'm afraid that I'm loosing it.
>
> Any insight that would help calm my fears would be greatly appreciated
> or even a
> "you're crazy:)" would be understandable, but at least I'd know.
> Thank you all very much!
>
> xoxo Kylie
>

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