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2a.: Re: Healing Needed for My Hearing Disability and My Acidic Stomach

Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:32 am (PDT)

Please, will you add my husband. He is a diabetic and has heart problems. I have high blood pressure and back injury but I would
Love all attention put onto him please.
Leeda

I will add him to next week's circle.

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
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2b.: Re: Healing Needed for My Hearing Disability and My Acidic Stomach

Posted by: "Leeda" lkangelz@aol.com angel_75457

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:52 am (PDT)

Thank you so much
leeda

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Date: 10/13/2011 1:32:02 PM
To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
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Acidic Stomach

Please, will you add my husband. He is a diabetic and has heart problems. I
have high blood pressure and back injury but I would
Love all attention put onto him please.
Leeda
I will add him to next week's circle.

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde

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2c.: Re: Healing Needed for My Hearing Disability and My Acidic Stomach

Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:16 pm (PDT)

Thank you so much for your help here. Also, would you ask them if I can join in their healing circle, giving me the names ahead of time to join in at the time they form their circle? I appreciate all that you and your coven are doing, and I would like to do MY part also.

Sending blessings,
Misti

Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. We begin the Healing Circle at 9:00PM EST every Wednesday. I will send you the names for next week's circle on Wednesday before 6:00PM.

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3a.: Re: The Silent Supper

Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:32 am (PDT)

This is attributed to Silver Ravenwolf in my BOS.

Thanks Miki

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4a.: Re: Truth and Justice Spell

Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:12 pm (PDT)

I love this idea thank you for sharing, i wonder does anyone have a list of such names already put together that they are willing to share?

Name
Village or Town
Date

Bridget Bishop
Salem
10-Jun-1692

Sarah Good
Salem Village (Danvers)
19-Jul-1692

Susanna Martin
Amesbury
19-Jul-1692

Elizabeth Howe
Ipswich
19-Jul-1692

Rebecca Nurse (or Nourse)
Salem Village (Danvers)
19-Jul-1692

Sarah Wildes
Topsfield
19-Jul-1692

George Jacobs
Salem Village (Danvers)
19-Aug-1692

Martha Carrier
Andover
19-Aug-1692

Reverend George Burroughs
Wells, Maine
19-Aug-1692

John Proctor
Salem Village (Peabody)
19-Aug-1692

John Willard
Salem Village (Danvers)
19-Aug-1692

Martha Corey
Salem Village (Peabody)
22-Sep-1692

Mary Easty
Topsfield
22-Sep-1692

Alice Parker
Salem
22-Sep-1692

Mary Parker
Andover
22-Sep-1692

Ann Prudeater
Salem
22-Sep-1692

Wilmot Reed
Marblehead
22-Sep-1692

Margaret Scott
Rowley
22-Sep-1692

Samuel Wardwell
Andover
22-Sep-1692

Accused of Witchcraft, died in jail:

Sarah Osburn, May 10, 1692

Roger Toothaker, June 16, 1692

unnamed infant of Sarah Good, prior to July 19, 1692

Ann Foster, Dec. 3, 1692

Lydia Dastin, March 10,1693

While the term "Salem Witches" is common nowadays, it ignores the fact that most of the accused were not from Salem. The jail and site of executions were in Salem, but the accused were mostly from other towns and villages in the area. Only 10 the 134 who were accused and were held in Salem's Jail were from Salem Towne. The complete count was:

1 Amesbury
38 Andover
2 Boxford
1 Boston
6 Billerica
6 Beverly
3 Charlestown
1 Chelmsford
3 Gloucester
3 Haverhill
1 Great Island
2 Marblehead
7 Lynn
1 Malden
4 Reading
1 Rowley
1 Romney Marsh (today called Revere)
1 Salisbury
10 Salem
30 Salem Village (today this is part of Danvers and of Peabody)
7 Topsfield & Ipswich
1 Wells, Maine
3 Woburn

In addition to the 134 above, another 34 were accused and in various jails awaiting trial when Governor Phips released all the prisoners.

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde

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Subject: Re: [13Witches] Truth and Justice Spell

I love this idea thank you for sharing, i wonder does anyone have a list of such names already put together that they are willing to share?

Blessed Be
MARI
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From: Lady Nightshayde <LadyNightshayde9@aol.com>
To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: [13Witches] Truth and Justice Spell

Truth and Justice

On this day in 1692, the governor of Massachusetts sent the letter that
ended the Salem Witch trials. In this season of remembering our
ancestors, take time at your altar to light two candles—one white and
one black. Light the white one for the victims of persecution, both
those falsely accused and those hunted for their beliefs. Light the
black one as a statement against intolerance, injustice, and violence.
Obtain a list of the names of those persecuted and executed during the
Salem Witch trials, the European Witch trials, and add names of people
you know who have been discriminated against because they practice magic
or are Wiccan, Asatru, Romani, Pagan, or even Jewish or Christian.
Remember the many nameless victims being falsely accused of witchcraft
even today in Africa, the Middle East, and India. Look at your list and
light your candles every day between now and Samhain.

by Castiel

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde

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5a.: Re: Putting the Spookiness Back in Halloween

Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:15 pm (PDT)

Here it is again Tiamat.

I couldn't see the words...:(

Putting the Spookiness Back in Halloween

The wind blows leaves across the path. The rains come early and often. There
is a bite in the air that wasn't there a month ago. Halloween is coming and
the veil between the worlds grows thin. Soon, the dead will walk the earth
once more.

As many Pagans celebrate their holidays by the Christian names Lammas (Mass
of the Loaves) and Candlemas (Mass of the Candles) instead of Lughnasad and
Brigid, I choose Halloween over the more traditional Samhain. In our
culture, it is Halloween that invokes the images of the dead rising again.
After a few years, I got tired of Samhain. Samhain, it seems to me, has
degenerated into a yearly "Let's have tea and cookies with dear dead Grandma
who just must have been a Witch even though she went to church every week."
Once again we would go to the Cauldron of Rebirth (or some other
transformative image) and get rid of our old selves and transform into our
new selves (just like we did in half of the other holidays in the year).

I wondered what was wrong. Why did I tell everyone that Halloween was my
favorite holiday when I didn't enjoy Samhain? Halloween is fun. It is a time
of power and mystery. It is spooks and goblins and all the darker sides of
life. Samhain is a sanitized happy trip to the Isle of Apples. I decided I
wanted Halloween again. I wanted the spookiness back.

Unlike any other Pagan holiday, Halloween is purely a time of death. The
harvest is done and the winter is coming. The wheel is turning to the dark
side and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. (OK, OK - You can
jump across the wheel, by moving to the Southern Hemisphere, but that's
about it.) Everything that lives also dies. If you celebrate the life in the
trees, don't forget their death. Even the Fey will die if no one remembers
them. Halloween is the time to celebrate death. Death isn't just a path to
rebirth, it is a power in its own right. It gives meaning to life. On
Halloween we celebrate the passing of time and remember those who have lived
before.

At Halloween, the veil between the worlds grows thin. The dead cross back
into the land of the living. This means all the dead, not just those we
admire. For every great artist or inspirational thinker, there is also a
serial killer or slave trader. Not to mention a dozen or so completely
average dead who just want a night out. While your dear departed brother
comes back on Halloween, so does the idiot drunken jock that was driving
during the wreck that killed them both. The dead are both good and bad. It
is a powerful and scary thing to have them all wandering about again. In
times past, people left out Soul Cakes to appease the huge mass of dead out
on Halloween. The dead would take the Soul Cakes and not disturb the living.
This is important unless you are completely at peace with all your dead.
Modern Pagans often forget that there are lots of dead out there. How many
ancestors do you have? I have two parents, and they have two parents and so
on. How many of your living relatives are going to talk to the dead this
year? As you can see, there are many dead for each living pagan who wants to
talk to them. This doesn't even count all the friends, animals, and
miscellaneous spirits important to you, both good and bad. By always
concentrating on the same few usually human ancestors, you miss the richness
of Halloween.

With these ideas in mind I created the Ritual of the Forgotten Dead for
Halloween last year. The idea was to create a space where the dead who no
one ever remembers get a chance to be heard. It is a chance for you to
mingle outside your normal circle of friends, if you will. There are a few
different ideas here that I will talk about as they come up in the ritual.
Have fun. We are all going to die; celebrate it while you can! Make it as
spooky and mysterious as death is.

Ritual of the Forgotten Dead
Set up the space: Find an indoor space where you can have lots of candles.
Fill the space with candlelight and decorations, if you can. You will be
reading and writing by candlelight. Black candles are ideal, but any will
do. Decorations should make you think of death. Most normal Halloween
decorations, such as skeletons, spiders, etc., will work fine. Set up your
altar as normal for Persephone in Her Queen of the Dead aspect.

Cast the circle: My own preference is not to cast a circle for this ritual.
A circle keeps out the spirits that you don't specifically invoke. The idea
of the ritual is to talk to those same spirits. A circle seems
self-defeating. My circle-mates, on the other hand, were very nervous about
calling spirits without the protections that a circle provides. We cast the
circle. If you cast a circle, make it strong and be aware that later
Persephone will be opening a gate in it.
Invoke the elements: This is a ritual for the dead, and that includes the
elements. Concentrate on the "ghosts" of the various elements and be
creative. Try to see them in new ways from how you normally look at them.
Here are the invocations we used.

Ghosts of the Wind, Spirits of the West, I call you! By the fallen leaves
that mark your passing and the phantom of solar wind, come and join our
circle! Bring us your knowledge of the last breath we exhale in death!

Ghosts of the Fire, Spirits of the South, I call you! By the ashes of the
funeral pyre and death of the Sun in eclipse, come and join our circle!
Bring us the passion of a flame burnt briefly bright, but now blackened and
cold!

Ghosts of the Water, Spirits of the West, I call you! By the concealing
mists of water evaporated and bones and silt of a dry riverbed, come and
join our circle! Bring us the secret wisdom of a body washed up on the
shore!

Ghosts of the Earth, Spirits of the North, I call you! By the sand of
mountains destroyed and the dust in an age old grave, come and join our
circle! Bring us the still strength of the wreckage after an avalanche or
earthquake!

Invoke the Goddess:
There are a few possible choices here, but I chose Persephone. It is as
Queen of the Dead that Persephone came into her own. She cast off her
"flower child" upbringing and became co-ruler of the Underworld. It was
Persephone, not Hades, who let Euridice go because of the beauty of Orpheus'
music. Hecate, the popular pagan choice for Queen of the Dead, represents a
significant misreading of the relevant mythology. Hecate was the Witches'
Goddess. She found the way to the Underworld, but did not rule there. She
didn't even lead the dead there, that was one of Hermes jobs. Hel would work
well in this ritual if you like the Norse mythology. She was the sole ruler
of the original Hell that bears her name. Reincarnation death goddesses like
Kali should be avoided as their dead always walk the earth as their new
reincarnated selves. Here is the invocation we used. Pomegranates should be
avoided lest the invocation get out of hand.

Lady Persephone, Queen of the Dead, we call You! You whose passing turns the
Wheel. Beautiful queen who rules the Evermoor, come join our circle this
night so that we may give voice to Your chosen. Come and join us Persephone,
on this Your night!

Invoke the God: Actually, I prefer not to invoke the God in this ritual.
Following the Wheel of the Year, the God is dead now, and not yet reborn.
The god candle on the altar should just be left unlit, preferably with a
burnt wick symbolizing that His time came and went. If you really want a
God, Hades, the husband of Persephone, would be a good choice. Lugh or
Jesus, both in ghostly form, might also work as gods who have died and led
the way out of death.
The working: Here is where the spirits get to speak. Tell Persephone that
the time is now. Ask her to open the Gates to the Underworld and bring to
the circle those forgotten dead who most deserve to speak. Let Her do the
choosing and calling. Here is the form we used.

Lady Persephone, Queen of the Dead, the time is now! Open Your gates as You
did for Euridice, and let Your people out! Bring to us those who most need
voice, those deserving forgotten dead who have too long been silent! Bring
them to us that we might do Your work and guard us from those spirits who
might do us ill. Bring out Your dead, and protect us from all harm!

Each person should light a candle in front of them and begin automatic
writing* by its light. Do this for no more than five minutes. If you haven't
practiced, five minutes is a long time to automatic write. Whoever has been
calling Persephone should remain outside the working to monitor energy,
watch for problems, and watch the clock. This kind of working is a bit much
for some people and having someone "taking care of things" will help matters
along. Don't worry, the spirit show is just as fun inside as out. After five
minutes, call a stop and talk to Persephone again. Ask her to get rid of all
the spirits and protect us from them. If you are not careful about doing so,
this is a good way to get haunted.

Lady Persephone, Queen of the Dead, let the Wheel turn again and return Your
people to Your Realm. We have given voice to Your people, now gather from us
from those who would stay as You gathered Euridice after Orpheus turned.
Lady Persephone, recall Your people and close Your gates!
Now everyone can sit and share. Give voice to the spirits by reading their
words to each other. If you wish, now is a good time to do libations (food
and drink), being careful to leave some for Persephone. This should be fun.
The spirits say odd things. Share and enjoy.

Dismiss Everything: As usual, dismiss the God (if called), Persephone, the
Elements, and open the circle (if cast). The dismissals are usually based on
the invocations so I'm not going to repeat all of them.

The idea with this ritual is to have fun and revel in the unique energies of
Halloween. It is a time of death and the dead, so celebrate them. There no
need to weaken death by only seeing the rebirth aspects or to pretend that
all the dead are happy-mommy guidance figures. Halloween is awesome and
potent. The mysteries of death are seen in the raging heart of the storm as
well as the quiet nighttime passing of a loved one. Halloween rituals should
reflect this.

*Automatic Writing
Automatic writing is a way to get at hidden things. By yourself, it can act
as a way of getting at your unconscious mind or helping you to see things in
a different way. With the proper energies invoked, it can act as a form of
divination like tarot cards or scrying. If you use it with spirits around,
it can allow them a voice to speak, kind of like a Ouija board. In the end,
it is just another tool any witch should have in her cauldron to use as she
sees fit.
Remove any distractions from your area. Sit somewhere you can write. Put the
paper down and put the pen on it. Focus your mind on your idea. If you are
doing introspection, hold your image in mind. If you are doing divination,
think of the Fates, or Nemesis, or a clock, or whatever imagery seems
appropriate to you. If you are communing with the spirits, think of them.
Write whatever word first pops into mind. Then write whatever word second
pops into mind. Repeat as necessary.
The key here is not to think about the words at all. Just write them as they
occur. Try not to even think about what they mean, otherwise you will start
directing things. If you find yourself doing word associations like
dog-cat-food-pizza-pepperoncini-pepper-salt-sea-etc...your mind is
interfering. Don't try to link the words or find meanings. There is plenty
of time for that when you are done. Just take it one word at a time and try
not to think about what comes next. If you get stuck, just write anything.
The act of writing may start the flow again. This is not easy. Five minutes
is a long time to do this, so don't get discouraged.
When you are done, look at what you have written. It will probably be weird.
Read as many hidden meanings and subtle nuances into it as you see fit. Some
stuff will probably be cool, some will be really stupid. Take whatever is
meaningful to you. If you are not linguistically inclined, it can be done in
other media. I've seen artists just add random picture after picture to a
page and then try to make sense of it at the end. It can even work for
typing at a computer. With that in mind....
I see a dog with a scarf before me. He has a balloon near by. At a beach,
the river ends.
by Andy

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde

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6a.: Quote

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:21 pm (PDT)

You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers; you can tell wheather a man is wise by his answers.---Joey Naquit

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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6b.: Re: Quote

Posted by: "LadyHawk_Jax" ladyhawk_jax@yahoo.com ladyhawk_jax

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:07 pm (PDT)

Dear Gae, The quote you posted just didn't seem to make much sense so, I did some research and this is what I found.
Thanks for the chance to put the ole thinkin cap on today! :)

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions."

Naguib Mahfouz quotes (Egyptian novelist and screenplay writer 1988 Nobel Prize for Literature, b.1911)

Love, Light and Abundant Blessings,
LadyHawk

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From: Gary Reese <hyperreal69@yahoo.com>
Subject: [13Witches] Quote
To:
Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 3:21 PM

You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers; you can tell wheather a man is wise by his answers.---Joey Naquit

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6c.: Re: Quote

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:54 pm (PDT)

Oops, typo. I am typing this from a written BOS, not copy and paste. I will try and be more careful!

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

From: LadyHawk_Jax <ladyhawk_jax@yahoo.com>
To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [13Witches] Quote

Dear Gae, The quote you posted just didn't seem to make much sense so, I did some research and this is what I found.
   Thanks for the chance to put the ole thinkin cap on today! :)

You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions."
Naguib Mahfouz quotes(Egyptian novelist and screenplay writer 1988 Nobel Prize for Literature, b.1911)

Love, Light and Abundant Blessings,
LadyHawk

--- On Thu, 10/13/11, Gary Reese <hyperreal69@yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: Gary Reese <hyperreal69@yahoo.com>
>Subject: [13Witches] Quote
>To:
>Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 3:21 PM
>
>
>
>You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers; you can tell wheather a man is wise by his answers.---Joey Naquit
>

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6d.: Fw: Quote

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:01 pm (PDT)

I wish to appologize to everyone for the typo error I made earlier. A friend brought it to my attention. I am copying it out of a handwritten BOS, not your typical copy and paste. Sorry for the inconvenience.

You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers. You can tell wheather a man is wise by his questions.---Joey Naquit

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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From: Gary Reese <hyperreal69@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:21 PM
Subject: Quote

You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers; you can tell wheather a man is wise by his answers.---Joey Naquit

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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6e.: Fw: Quote

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:01 pm (PDT)

I wish to appologize to everyone for the typo error I made earlier. A friend brought it to my attention. I am copying it out of a handwritten BOS, not your typical copy and paste. Sorry for the inconvenience.

You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers. You can tell wheather a man is wise by his questions.---Joey Naquit

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Gary Reese <hyperreal69@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:21 PM
Subject: Quote

You can tell wheather a man is clever by his answers; you can tell wheather a man is wise by his answers.---Joey Naquit

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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7a.: Progressive Witchcraft

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:31 pm (PDT)

Excerpt from "Progressive Witchcraft" compiled by Janet Farrar:

"Those who follow the path of Progressive Witchcraft seek that which is best for all, both from nature and from themselves. "Good" and "Evil" are recognized as human concepts, alien to nature, that comes about by imbalance. They seek to balance themselves and the world around them. For this reason Witches are intrinsically healers in all aspects of their work who see magick, ritual, practice, and the use of psychic skills as nothing more than tools to achieve this goal.-----From my BOS

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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8.: Wicca or Heathen

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:55 pm (PDT)

This is taken from the website www.heathengods.com :Similarities and Differences
Between Heathenry and Wiccaby Arlie Stephenshttp://ansuz.worldash.org/asatru/articles/intro/wicca_compar.htmlThis article discusses the similarities and differences between Heathenry
and Wicca.
It is not the first article that's been written comparing the two religions. In
particular, Devyn Gillette and Lewis Stead wrote
Hammer
communication between them.
That article's only real flaw is that the authors don't really seem to
empathize with Wiccans. They focus on the questions that Heathens care
about, rather than those that tend to catch the attention of Wiccans. And
their discussion of history has a tendency to irritate many people with
Wiccan backgrounds.
The present article is an attempt to provide information from a more
Wiccan viewpoint. It is intended for those with a Wiccan or partially Wiccan
background who find themselves interested in Heathenry. It attempts to
explain the similarities and differences between Wicca and Heathenry in
familiar terms, since the terms Heathens use when talking to each other
may be quite confusing.
Like all general descriptions, it will be only partially correct. Like Wiccans,
there are many different groups of Heathens, each with different beliefs
and practices. On the extremes, Heathens may be as different from each
other as (e.g.) lesbian seperatist feminist egalitarian Dianic Wiccans are
different from hierarchical initiatory Gardnerian Wiccans, or as either of
these are from eclectic humour loving Discordian Wiccans.
However, just as with Wiccans, there are common elements most agree
on, and it is these common elements I will attempt to convey.
Let's start with some commonalities. Both are modern polytheistic religions
that draw on older pre Christian roots. Both often feel a strong connection
with the earth and the creatures that share the earth with humans. Both
tend to believe the gods are active in the world, and interact with their
worshippers.
Both believe that anyone can make their own connections with the gods;
no one needs a specialist to contact the gods for them. Many Wiccans,
especially the older traditions, initiate everyone as priest/priestess, so
there are no specialists. Other Wiccans, and most Heathens, have a role
for specialized clergy, but it's as advisers, teachers, leaders of big/fancy
rituals, organizers of small groups, and interfaces with the public, not as
having some privileged pipeline to the gods, or mediating between lay
people and gods. In particular, a lay Wiccan or lay heathen can do just
about anything, except where there's an issue of legal recognition, or, in
the case of Wiccans, of initiation. (Wiccan initiation
special powers, but they are not needed for basic connections and
communication with the gods.)
Now some big differences. While neither religion is monotheistic, Heathens
tend to be much more strongly polytheistic. Heathens see the gods and
goddesses as individuals; Thor and Odin are no more seen as aspects of
the same god than Tom and Joe are seen as aspects of the same human.
(Wiccans, on the other hand, often see all gods as aspects of the Horned
God, and all goddesses as aspects of the Great Goddess.)
Many Wiccans also see polarity, especially gender polarity, as one of the
key organizing principles of their worldview. In particular, most worship
rituals include a symbolic union of the God and Goddess (athame and
chalice). Heathenry does not include any such concept.
Wiccan circles tend to have a ceremonial magic flavor. Sacred space is
created and protected, power is raised, and the gods are invoked. Magic or
some sort of guided meditation may be done. Heathen blots, on the other
hand, have more of a flavor of inviting a friend over for a drink or a meal.
In fact, that seems to be one key aspect of the Heathen attitude to our
gods ... they are our kin, or our friends. Like us, but more experienced and
able to do things we cannot. ... Some believe they are literally our
ancestors. Wiccans tend to have a more "conventional" attitude to the
gods, being much more likely to worship them than to invite them to a
party.
Wiccan circles pretty much always involve some attention to the four
elements, generally seen as earth, air, fire, and water. Some Heathens
may pay some ritual attention to the 4 or 6 directions, but many do not, and
very few associate the directions with elements.
Many branches of Wicca are initiatory, with secrets reserved only for
initiates. Moreover, there are commonly three grades of initiation, with
initiates passing through the three degrees one by one. Heathenry is not
initiatory, and there are no secrets. Moreover, while a distinction is made
between clergy and laity, and some heathen organizations have some kind
of rank or status within the organization, there's no shared idea of a
progression between levels, with ever growing wisdom and spiritual
insight.
Some things are deceptively similar. It would be possible to compose a
table of correspondance for Heathen and Wiccan terminology. It would
have entries like "coven" = "kindred"; "priest" = "godhi"; "circle" = "blot". It
would also be quite misleading. Kindreds aren't generally organized like
covens, though there are commonalities, and don't serve quite the same
purpose. A Wiccan priest or priestess has somewhat different training and
responsibilities than a Heathen godhi or gythia. A "blot" is strictly religious,
whereas a "circle" can be for worship, magic, or both.
Then there are the social similarities and differences. In general (with at
least as many exceptions as any stereotype) Wiccans tend to be socially
and politically liberal, while Heathens tend to be socially and politically
conservative. Wiccans tend to a consensus seeking non-confrontational
communication style, whereas Heathens tend towards emphatic
statements of their opinions. Heathens also tend to be a lot more
independent and forceful than Wiccans, and tend to expect the same from
each other; a polite introvert is likely to completely fade into the woodwork,
and leave, feeling unwanted and ignored ... whereas Wiccans are more
likely to freeze out a newcomer who is not sufficiently polite and
deferential.
Another big difference is the attitude to historical research. While there is a
huge range in both communities, Wiccans are, in general, much more
likely to be interested in mythological or emotional rightness (how
something feels), where Heathens are more likely to focus on scholarly
research (what sources can be documented, and how reliable are they). In
particular, Heathens
tend to distinguish carefully between things recently invented and things
derived from the recorded lore. A person who cannot identify their sources
is likely to be laughed at or at least be somewhat forcefully educated ...
often by someone citing primary sources or recent scholarly work.
Wiccans, on the other hand, may or may not care about scholarship, but
very commonly consider it extremely rude to point out the improbability of
someone's claimed "historical" tradition.
Both communities have a certain amount of interest in connecting with
historical and cultural roots. Many Wiccans are very interested in all things
Celtic, and heavily identify as Celts. Heathens, on the other hand, take this
a lot farther. At one extreme, there are those who believe that the Heathen
gods are only interested in those humans who are descended from them,
i.e. the descendants of those who worshipped them in pre Christian times,
and no one else can or should be Heathen. Whether or not Heathens
share that view, or feel the gods call whomever they wish, they still tend to
be very interested in their ancestral heritage. Blots are done to ancestors
(physical and spiritual) as well as gods. Many dress up in Viking costume
to worship, or take an interest in pre-industrial crafts. I personally have
found myself taking up sewing as a connection with my female ancestors.
Wiccans (especially relative newbies) often think that all pagans are
basically similar to Wiccans, with perhaps a different pantheon. or some
minor changes. Heathens, on the other hand, often feel like they are
sharing a (neo-pagan) tent with a (Wiccan) elephant ... they feel like they're
being constantly misunderstood and misrepresented as "Wiccans
worshipping Norse gods" and consequently often refuse to accept the
name "pagan" at all, treating "pagan" and "neopagan" as referring only to
Wiccan-derived religions.
This can cause a lot of misunderstanding and resentment. The Wiccans
and Wicca-derived Pagans see the Heathens as natural allies ... and get
rebuffed with a confusing insistence that Heathens have nothing to do with
paganism, or have nothing in common with Wiccans. Heathens who
attempt to approach Wiccans and Wicca-derived Pagans often treat them
as "just like Heathens" ... and wind up shaking their heads in bewildered
anger when rebuffed as rude, aggressive, and generally unfriendly.The Pentagram and theto compare and contrast the two faiths, and try to facilitateis seen as conferingcare about consistency with recorded material. They

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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9a.: Re: healing circle

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:57 pm (PDT)

I only wish I had have asked for help from the group before trying to handle it myself. I became so weak that nothing seemed to work. Lesson Learned...and thank you, I will also add you to my prayers.

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

From: Lady ckrystal Hawk <ladyckrystalhawk@yahoo.com>
To: "13Witches@yahoogroups.com" <13Witches@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [13Witches] healing circle

Merry Meet,
I will be lighting candles for them and you Gae. Misti, you are so right, when everyone sends their healing energies it becomes very powerfull.
Blessed Be

Lady Ckrystal Hawk
Someday
We will look back
Be humble like a Hawk
Stretch your Golden Wings
Fly high
To the Sky Above

From: Guamella Pellegrin <glpellegrin@yahoo.com>
To: "13Witches@yahoogroups.com" <13Witches@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [13Witches] healing circle

Gary, I will also send healing energy to the names you have given here, plus put their names on my prayer tree and burn healing candles for them. You can never have too many people praying and doing healing, especially THESE days when everyone seems to know someone who needs healing.

Sending blessings,
Misti

From: Lady Nightshayde <LadyNightshayde9@aol.com>
To: 13Witches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [13Witches] healing circle

Will you please add my brother...Joel Ferguson, my Father...Wayne Reese, my friend Nils Siren, and Myself...Gary Reese...Gae Reese to the healing circle. The names have been added to the list for the Circle.

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde

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10a.: Quote of the day

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:05 pm (PDT)

If one lacks courage, all of his experiences of hardship will turn into complaints and resentment toward others. He will then loose confidence in faith as well as the energy to move forward. As a result, he will feel nothing but bitter lonliness and regret.---Nichiren Daishonin passas away, 1282

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Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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11.: Pet Therapy

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:34 pm (PDT)

This was so cute I just had to share it with Hel's permission of course!
Pet Therapy Starts Now...

SMILE!

BEST FRIENDS

FIND A SUNBEAM – TAKE A NAP

Fluff n Fluffy

Outta shape

Soft, warm and snuggly

TIME FOR A FACE LIFT!

Quiet Time

No slivers required!

Cuddles n Cuddy

Ain't I cute?

COMFY!

oooooh... daz big!

How tiny!

NOW THIS IS RELAXED!

CUTE FAMILY PORTRAIT!

NICE IDEA FOR A DOGGY BED

SPOT THE INTRUDER???

Snuggles n Cuddles

PERFECT SPOT TO TAKE A NAP

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               Gae

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12.: (no subject)

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:40 pm (PDT)

Here is a kids Samhain Prayer...compliments of Hel... <HelenesPlaceSiteRing@yahoogroups.com>;

Lana Searles Davidson posted in Best Witches * HPSR on FB * Hel the Witch.
Lana Searles Davidson 1:07am Oct 11
Here's a kids prayer for Samhain. It came off the patti Witington site. Doesn't say who wrote it.

Kids Prayer for Samhain
Samhain is here, cold is the earth,
as we celebrate the cycle of death and rebirth.
Tonight we speak to those through the veil,
the lines between worlds are thin and frail.

Ghosts and spirits in the night,
magical beings rising in flight,
owls hooting up in a moonlit tree,
I don't fear you and you don't fear me.

As the sun goes down, far to the west,
my ancestors watch over me as I rest.
They keep me safe and without fear,
on the night of Samhain, the Witch's New Year

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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13a.: Daily Inspiration

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:51 pm (PDT)

This was taken from www.theoldworldwitches@yahoogroups.com : Daily inspiration:

More and more you will begin to notice that which flows and extends from the illusions of this location in time and space, and that which is eternal and real. It's good to not get too invested in the illusion's games, to recognize them as elements of this sphere, but to not let them distract you from the eternal reality and the true nature of being.

Life at the Ideafrontier
Expect Wonderful by Meredith Murphy

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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14a.: Re: Recurring Dreams

Posted by: "Lady Nightshayde" LadyNightshayde9@aol.com nightshayde99

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:30 pm (PDT)

What I don't understand is why I'm still having these dreams about this person. They are usually non-sexual, but involve us being close friends, etc. I guess it's not that disturbing, but I wish them to stop. I have tried several methods to try and 'get past' this - journaling, and talk therapy.

I have had recurring dreams about high school often. The way I interpreted my dreams was that this was one of the happiest times of my life, and people and places associated with that time figured in prominently. I often dream about a boy I dated named Ricky Luce who was killed in the Vietnam war. I believe he represents hopes and dreams that never materialized.

Dreams are as individual as the dreamer, and can represent daily occurrences that we work out in our dreams with the use of symbolism.

The light of a hundred stars cannot equal the light of the Moon.

Love Each Day,
Lady Nightshayde

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15.: grouply

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:35 pm (PDT)

If you never subscribed. http://www.grouply. com/unsubscribe. php

If you own groups you can block members from being able to use your group with grouply.
http://www.grouply. com/owner_ controls. php

Please read below if You are a Group Owner You will want to read below
& do this for Everyone Of Your group's So this Grouply Group Can't access any of Your Group Archive's or membership!
Do exactly as it say's to do, also Please Past this around to every group Owner You know!
Thank You Very Much

Grouply has set up a control to allow owners to disable their groups from Grouply access! Below I have written the instructions in how to do so!

***NOTE: YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WITH GROUPLY TO FOLLOW THESE STEPS***

1:Go to this link: http://www.grouply. com/owner_ controls. php
2: Type in your group name into the box
3: Click the 'Send Mail' button
4: Grouply will send an email with an access code: copy that access code
5: Paste it into the access code box
6: Click the 'submit' button
7: Make sure Disable is checked
8: Click the save button

After Leaving Grouply then go into your
http://groups. yahoo.com/ mygroups
and change your password.

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16a.: Re: Tarot question

Posted by: "Fran Wolfe-Johnson" tygermoonfoxx@gmail.com tygermoonfoxx

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:36 pm (PDT)

>
> I was wondering does every deck out there have different meanings for their
> cards? Is there one set of Universal meaning for Tarot cards that one can
> learn to use on any deck? How many decks do some of you have? How do you
> read them?
>
>
I'm a collector. Some decks I read from, some I bought because of the
artwork, some read only for certain circumstances and people, and some are
private decks for family or for myself. My favorite is an Anime deck; it
came from Thailand, without a book of instructions, but the pictures in the
cards spoke so strongly of family members and events in the family that I
had to have them. The one I use for public readings (friends, paid
readings, strangers) is the Hudes. It has realistic but medieval art style
and resembles the Rider-Waite (which will not, under any circumstances, read
for me; the deck either goes walkabout or burns me or refuses to do
anything). I've found that my taste and resonance to tarot decks changed as
I got older. For a long time I used a fantasy deck called Tarot of a Moon
Garden but it just didn't fit any more; I retired it. One of my early
favorites is an old over sized set simply called the Herbal. It doesn't
differ much from the standard tarot except that it was also a practical
guide to recognizing and identifying various medicinals.

If you want to study the tarot closely, I would suggest taking a look at the
basic Rider-Waite and the books written about it. These were helpful:

Pictorial Key to the Tarot by Arthur Edward Waite
Tarot Made Easy by Nancy Garen

There are others, but these are the best I've found for such studies. Get
to know the universal symbols which are included in nearly all tarot decks,
regardless of variation, and their general meanings. Once you've done that,
if your specific tarot has an interpretation book, read that (both the long
book and the short booklet which comes with them if you have them). After
that, it's a matter of handling the cards, getting a 'feel' for how they
speak to you regarding specific meanings. This is useful for reading for
yourself but may cloud matters if you plan on reading for others.

Learn to read and interpret basic body language: brief expressions,
gestures, the way the eyes look, the tone of the voice, the colors the
person chooses to wear --- anything which will lend you insight into the
person's question. Much of reading accurately is more about reading the
human in front of you and applying it to the cards and their question than
it is about the cards themselves.

Practice makes perfect. Try different readings for different reasons,
different layouts, different card sets.

The basic symbology is universal; how it's interpreted according to the
situation varies.

And yes, some use coins and some use pentacles. I've also seen variants for
the sword, the wand, and the cup as well. In each case, however, the basic
symbolic meaning of the suit will remain the same. Some cards include a page
as well; some do not. I like the widest possible interpretation
opportunities so I tend to read with decks that have the extra cards.
--
"Whenever the pressure of our complex city life thins my blood and numbs
my brain, I seek relief in the trail; and when I hear the coyote wailing to
the yellow dawn, my cares fall from me - I am happy."

-- Hamlin Garland

Fran Wolfe-Johnson (WalkerTXKitty)
FoxHeart Acres, FL

http://www.myhappytrails.net

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17a.: Re: protection question

Posted by: "Fran Wolfe-Johnson" tygermoonfoxx@gmail.com tygermoonfoxx

Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:45 pm (PDT)

If they're not witches or pagans, don't worry about it. You control how
much they will influence you by your reactions and whether or not you allow
yourself to react to their actions against you. If you're worried about the
negativity sticking to you, carrying a small reflective mirror like the one
found in a compact will cancel it. Simply address the mirror and direct it
to send any negative energies back to their originator.

BE CAREFUL! If you're fostering negativity yourself, any sort of protection
like that will impact you as well. Your first actions ought to be mundane:
decide whether or not you want to cut ties and then take measures to do so
if you do. Think carefully about whether or not you had any part in
perpetrating the circumstances which led to the breech and, if so, whether
or not you can mend them. Like it or not, fights are a multi-way street and
the participants are rarely blameless.

If cutting them out of your life too is the only way to deal with it, allow
yourself time to heal. Allow yourself to grief for the loss, to be angry,
and to accept it. Whatever the temptation, don't say anything bad about
them. If others ask, simply tell them you couldn't reach an agreement and
decided to part ways or that you had a difference of opinion which could not
be reconciled and have decided to be apart.

Also, remember that not everything is to a purpose or magically oriented.
Sometimes bad things just happen. Allowing yourself to think someone is
acting against you may well bring that into reality.

I would also practice shielding, grounding, and centering. A good personal
shield will block anything aimed at you which you do not want. Walk and
move with confidence in your purpose and your decisions. That alone is
enough to make most people leave you alone. Witch wars and intentional
negativity are actually fairly rare.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:33 AM, ~*~Carly~*~ <carloo62@yahoo.com> wrote:

So, I just recently got in a huge fight with 3 very important people in my
> life, and they all decided against me and cut me out of their life. I know
> how it is when they hate someone...and they wish a lot of bad things on
> someone they hate. I'm 90% sure thats whats happening to me right now. So
> can you please send me any information you have on how to be protected in a
> situation like this???
> --
>
"Whenever the pressure of our complex city life thins my blood and numbs
my brain, I seek relief in the trail; and when I hear the coyote wailing to
the yellow dawn, my cares fall from me - I am happy."

-- Hamlin Garland

Fran Wolfe-Johnson (WalkerTXKitty)
FoxHeart Acres, FL

http://www.myhappytrails.net

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18a.: Re: my getting to know

Posted by: "Fran Wolfe-Johnson" tygermoonfoxx@gmail.com tygermoonfoxx

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:13 pm (PDT)

Late...sorry, guys, haven't been on the computer. Long story, but I
almost died because of a stupid medical error and I'm still
recovering.

> Name (real or otherwise): Fran, Kitty, Walker, TygerMoon Foxx
> Sex: female
> Home: Keystone Heights, FL
> Height: 6'0"
> Eyes: green
> Hair: red
> Magickal Practice: 3rd degree Georgian priestess, head of Owl Moon Coven
> Favorite Sabbat: Samhain, Yule
> Favorite TV shows: Big Bang Theory, Criminal Minds, NCIS, The Simpsons, CSI, Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, Kitchen Nightmares, Chopped, Iron Chef, Good Eats, Deadliest Warrior, World's Dumbest, Walker Texas Ranger, JAG, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman, Gunsmoke
> Favorite magazine: Food Network, Taste of Home
> Sun sign: Leo
> Moon Sign: Pisces
> Favorite Color: jewel tones, especially purples, ambers, greens, and rusts
> Favorite Magickal Tool: crystals, rocks, gems, and herbs
> Favorite Gemstones: Tiger's Eye, fire agate, green aventurine
> Favorite Moon Phase: New
> Your Element: Earth
> Your Birthstone: Peridot
> What do you think about Ouija boards? Dangerous in the wrong hands. Played with one as a teen and called up something I couldn't put back without help. Have used one since in the correct circumstances with the correct training but they still make me uneasy. They seem to attract spirits who intend harm or who intend manipulation.
> What's on your mousepad? A 40's style cowgirl surrounded by poker chips and the words "Texas Hold 'em" up top.
> Favorite Board Game: Scrabble
> Worst feeling in the world: hopelessness and loneliness
> Best feeling in the world: unconditional love and dedication
> Favorite Movie Soundtrack: Gangs of New York
> Do you get motion sickness: I don't unless I'm trying to read in the car or we're passing through a strip of road that has thick trees with the sun coming through. The flashing makes me nauseated.
> Children's names: Childless by choice; I don't like them and know that I would harm a baby if I had one. I have one foster son, now eighteen, named Simon, and several fur and feathered kids.
> Do you get along with your parents: Not really. My Ma loves me and would probably talk to me more but my autistic sister is a barrier right now. She doesn't approve of me or my lifestyle and doesn't want me talking to my Ma at all.
> Favorite Foods: sushi, pizza, authentic Tex-Mex
> Favorite Thing To Do On Weekends: read, geocaching, artwork, tending plants, going to museums and flea markets, taking photographs
> Favorite smells: cinnamon and apples, pumpkin pie, autumn leaves, cold dry air, pine trees, fresh snow, cold rain, freshly cut grass, saddle leather
> Roller Coasters--deadly or exciting: I love roller coasters but cannot ride them any more because of my size and because I have a bad back. I'm already paralyzed, I guess I don't want to completely mess it up even if they would let me ride.
> Chocolate or Vanilla: Neither. I prefer strawberry or mint.
> Croutons or bacon bits: I use quite a few croutons but bacon can make anything better.
> Do you like to drive: I do, and I still can. I have just enough mobility in my legs to be able to work the pedals for an automatic vehicle. When I can't do that any more, I'll have it modified so that there are hand controls. Driving is Zen for me.
> Thunderstorms--scary or cool: I like to watch but I hate to hear them. They mean trees falling and sudden tornadoes in my neck of the woods.
> Favorite alcoholic drinks: Jack and Coke, Lone Star beer, Corona with lime and salt, margueritas
> What is on the walls in your room: a milagro altar belonging to Legba which represents the family, its livelihood, and its pets; several pictures of my totem the coyote and my spirit animal the tiger; pictures of family and friends; a wall calendar and an erasable board for keeping track of household stuff; a cork board with pictures of family and friends, a postcard of John Wayne and my personal creed adapted from the writings of Chuck Norris; a copper cast of a fox; a mirror above the doors to the temple room.
> Favorite Movies: Sherlock Holmes, Back to the Future Trilogy, True Grit, Lone Wolf, Matrix, Spirited Away, The Black Cauldron, Beauty and the Beast, The Lost Boys, The Exorcist, Karate Kid trilogy, Shallow Hal, Pretty Woman, To Wong Foo with Love
> Favorite Music: folk music, fusions of different world musics, Middle Eastern pop and classical, jazz, zydeco, Celtic and Celtic fusion, 80s pop, indie, alternative, Americana, techno, trance/dance, classic rap, Baroque, classical, Gregorian chant, gospel, country and western
> Are you a righty, lefty, or ambidextrous: I'm severely left handed to the point that I forget I have another hand with which to do anything.
> What is under your bed: Three dog toys, dog hair, a box of marital aids
> Favorite Number: 13
> Dream Car: GMC 1500 Sierra (already driving it, just need to mod it out so it looks like Walker's from the first season)
> Favorite Sport to Watch: I hate sports and don't watch unless the Saints or the Broncos are playing
> Favorite Hobby: Reading, writing, drawing, crochet, creating pocket shrines, gardening, farming, landscaping, geocaching, mushroom hunting, herb hunting, wildflower identification, bird watching
> Pen or Pencil: I write in pencil when I can or I use a number 10 gel pen.
> How many rings before you answer the phone: I don't like talking on the phone so I never answer it. It always goes to voice mail.
> Favorite Ice Cream: pumpkin pie
> If you could choose to meet one person, dead or alive, who would it be? Aleister Crowley
>
>

>
> --

"Whenever the pressure of our complex city life thins my blood and
numbs my brain, I seek relief in the trail; and when I hear the coyote
wailing to the yellow dawn, my cares fall from me - I am happy."

-- Hamlin Garland

Fran Wolfe-Johnson (WalkerTXKitty)
FoxHeart Acres, FL

http://www.myhappytrails.net

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19.: Atheist in the Woods

Posted by: "Gary Reese" hyperreal69@yahoo.com hyperreal69

Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:23 pm (PDT)

I recieved the e-mail from my christian family. Though I am Pagan, I found this very amusing!
AN ATHEIST IN THE WOODS
>
> An atheist was walking through the woods.
>
> 'What majestic trees!'
> 'What powerful rivers!'
> 'What beautiful animals!'
> He said to himself.
>
> As he was walking alongside the river, he heard a rustling
> in the bushes behind him.
>
> He turned to look. He saw a 7-foot grizzly bear charge
> towards him.
>
> He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his
> shoulder & saw that the bear was closing in on him.
>
> He looked over his shoulder again, & the bear was even
> closer.
>
> He tripped & fell on the ground.
>
> He rolled over to pick himself up but saw that the bear was
> right on top of him, reaching for him with his left paw &
> raising his right paw to strike him.
>
>
> At that instant moment, the Atheist cried out:
> 'Oh my God!'
>
> Time stopped.
> The bear froze.
> The forest was silent.
>
> As a bright light shone upon the man, a voice came out of
> the sky.
>
> 'You deny my existence for all these years, teach others I
> don't exist and even credit creation to cosmic accident.'
> 'Do you expect me to help you out of this predicament?'
>
> 'Am I to count you as a believer?'
>
> The atheist looked directly into the light, and said: 'It
> would be hypocritical of me to suddenly ask you to treat me
> as a Christian now, but perhaps you could make the BEAR a
> Christian?'
>
> 'Very well', said the voice.
>
> The light went out. The sounds of the forest resumed. And
> the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together,
> bowed his head & spoke:
>
> 'Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from Thy
> bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.'
>

Light Begots Darkness and Darkness Begots Light,

Dearest Hecate, Mother of the Night


Blessings to You and Yours,
               Gae

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