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1a.: Re: I'm a newbie.. HI all From: Sajdah Muhammad

2a.: Re: Lost From: Tonya Richards Rowe

3a.: Re: Good RESOURCES on WICCA: From: Jonathan S
3b.: Re: Good RESOURCES on WICCA: From: gaia_d

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1a.: Re: I'm a newbie.. HI all

Posted by: "Sajdah Muhammad" mrsusama@gmail.com saajidah_30

Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:03 pm (PDT)

Hi Catherine welcome to the group, I am Egyptian Witch wife/ mom to 5 and a
solitary witch.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:11 AM, catbradley75 <catbradley75@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Merry meet and good afternoon,
> I just wanted to take a few and say Hi and introduce myself.
> I'm Catherine I'm a single mom of 5 amazing kids.I live in Culpeper Va. I'm
> just now starting my path after a long time of learning where my heart and
> soul belong. I long for a path in Tradltional Wicca.. but, sadly can't seem
> to find a coven in the middle of the boonies.. lol.. gee what a suprize.
> I look forward to getting to know all of you.
> Bright blessings for a wonderful day.
>
>
>

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2a.: Re: Lost

Posted by: "Tonya Richards Rowe" tonyarowe26104@yahoo.com tonyarowe26104

Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:03 pm (PDT)

I would love a makeover but that isnt in the forseeable future do to no income and no credit cards lol...but thanks for the help anyway

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>
> A few suggestions that might help you.
>
> 1) If you need a haircut & new clothes.... do this, even if you have
> to put it on a credit card.
> If you look good and feel confident getting a job is easier.
>
> 2) join a few groups, pagan or otherwise and start networking.
> The more people you know that know you are looking for work the
> more opportunities you might
> hear about.
>

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3a.: Re: Good RESOURCES on WICCA:

Posted by: "Jonathan S" jonathan.d.schultz@gmail.com jonathans287

Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:06 pm (PDT)

Gaia,

I tried going to the link for Wicca For The Rest Of Us, however it seems as though it is broken - do you know if their site has moved? I found a page that's titled the same but not knowing what content was on the site I wasn't sure if it's the same info. The site I found was...

http://wicca.cnbeyer.com/

Thanks!

--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups.com, "gaia_dianne" <gaia_dianne@...> wrote:
>
>
> GAIA:
>
> Hello and Merry Meet, Everyone --
>
> First, i'd like to say that it certainly can be difficult to find good,
> reliable, authentic information, rather than the often garbled, confused
> and confusing, sometimes MIS-information, that is often found
> circulating about Paganism -- difficult, but not impossible.
>
> I'm Wiccan, so i'm most familiar with that "angle" of things, and that's
> how i'll approach this question, ok?
>
>
>
> RESOURCES ON WICCA:
>
>
>
> CoG - Covenant of the Goddess - http://www.cog.org <http://www.cog.org/>
>
> CoG is a national organization of (legally-recognized Wiccan "churches)
> - Wiccan covens, clergy and solitaries -- with local "councils" in many
> cities; providing general, basic information, links to resources, etc.
>
>
>
> 2. Circle Sanctuary - http://www.circlesanctuary.org
> <http://www.circlesanctuary.org/>
>
> Circle is a Pagan (not just Wiccan) Sanctuary, working farm, and
> learning center, offering training, workshops, festivals, networking,
> etc.
>
>
>
> 3. Witchvox - http://www.witchvox.com <http://www.witchvox.com/>
>
> Witchvox is a wonderful resource that offers general, basic information,
> referrals and links to local and regional resources.
>
>
>
> 5. Wicca For the Rest of Us http://wicca.timerift.net/
> <http://wicca.timerift.net/> -
>
> One of the better Pagan internet sites; lots of good information,
> articles, resources, links, networking, etc.
>
>
>
> 4. "Beginning Wicca" Yahoo Group -
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeginningWicca/
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeginningWicca/>
>
> - One of the better Yahoo groups with several High Priests and
> Priestess members, so there are lots of good discussions and good
> information.
>
>
>
> 5. BlueMoonWicca.org – http://bluemoonwicca.org/classes.html
> <http://bluemoonwicca.org/classes.html>
>
> Classes on Traditional Wicca.
>
>
>
> 6. Religious Tolerance – Pages on Wicca:
>
> http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm
> <http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm>
>
>
>
> Conflict Between Wiccans and Christians:
> http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_conf.htm
> <http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_conf.htm>
>
>
>
>
>
> B. BOOKS:
>
> 1. Books And Authors To Avoid:
>
> I don't want to be negative, but since these books tend to be very
> popular (and often recommended by beginners who don't know better) I
> thought it might be wise to include just a few words on which books
> should be AVOIDED due to factual errors or ethical problems: (I can
> provide more info on this, for anyone who requests it).
>
> AVOID anything by:
> 1. Books and Authors To Avoid:
> Before going any further, however, I want to give you a warning: There
> are many books that are so-so (pretty good), there are some that are
> excellent, and there are (too many!) that are crap. As you take this
> Class, you will begin to be able to make better and better decisions,
> faster, about which are which, as you check out the books for yourself
> and compare what they say, with what you're learning in this Class.
>
> I hate to be negative, but I do want to give you a warning right away:
> Here are some that are considered among the worst (because of factual
> errors, ethical problems, and more) by most experienced Wiccans, but
> are rather popular (and often even recommended) by beginners who just
> don't know any better.
>
> AVOID Anything By:
>
> 1. Silver Ravenwolf – For more on this, please see the article:
> "Silver Ravenwolf: Positive, Negative, Resources", at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/21193
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/21193>
>
>
>
> 2. Douglas Monroe's "21 Lessons of Merlin" See
>
> http://www.neopagan.net/21-Lessons.html
> <http://www.neopagan.net/21-Lessons.html>
>
> http://digitalmedievalist.com/reviews/21-lessons/
> <http://digitalmedievalist.com/reviews/21-lessons/>
>
> 3. Kisma Stepanich – has been publically accused of Plagiarism /
> Fraud: See
>
> http://www.geocities.com/ferigold/truthfaery/index.html
> <http://web.archive.org/web/20040513202257/www.geocities.com/ferigold/tr\
> uthfaery/index.html>
>
> http://www.backwash.com/content.php?jouid=5256
> <http://web.archive.org/web/20050219233009/www.backwash.com/content.php?\
> jouid=5256>
>
> http://www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/library/WhenIsACeltNotACelt.htm
> <http://www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/library/WhenIsACeltNotACelt.htm>
>
> http://www.summerlands.com/crossroads/remembrance/faery_wicca.htm
> <http://www.summerlands.com/crossroads/remembrance/faery_wicca.htm>
>
>
>
> 4. Edain McCoy –
>
> http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=10
> <http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=10>
>
> http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=14#response_5
> <http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=14#response_5>
>
>
>
> 5. Mary Summer Rain –
>
> http://www.newagefraud.org/ <http://www.newagefraud.org/>
>
>
>
> OTHERS:
>
> See for example, "Problematic Pagans", here:
> http://www.outofthedark.com/ProblematicPagans/index.html
> <http://www.outofthedark.com/ProblematicPagans/index.html>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2. On Scott Cunningham:
>
>
>
> A few words on Scott Cunningham and his books, "Wicca: A Guide for the
> Solitary Practitioner" and "Living Wicca":
>
> Scott was a much-beloved, extremely prolific writer of Pagan and Wiccan
> books and articles. He was Initiated into Gardnerian Wicca, but he
> became (through writing his two major books, "Wicca; A Guide for the
> Solitary Practitioner" and its companion volume, "Living Wicca' -- one
> of the strongest proponents of non-initiatory, solitary and eclectic
> "Neo-Wicca" (as opposed to "Traditional Wicca", which is generally
> defined as "an initiatory, lineaged Path whose central Mysteries are
> generally Oath-bound"). These two books had an extremely profound
> effect upon Paganism in general and Wicca in particular, and are most
> often recommended especially by beginners and "intermediate" students --
> so i think it's important to note and discuss them a bit.
>
> First, it's important to note that these two books were published back
> in 1988, and 1993 -- just as Wicca was beginning to become somewhat
> popular and generate a great deal of interest, but BEFORE there was a
> lot of easily-available information on (Traditional) Wicca. Scott "hit"
> it just right, and his book took off like crazy.
>
> But (imo) it's crucial to realize that Scott was advocating a NEW Kind
> of Wicca -- Until his publications, Wicca was a Mystery, Initiatory,
> Lineaged Path, whose deepest, most profound principles and practices
> were oath-bound and not available publically (they still are not, but
> most beginners don't realize that). Scott wrote his books for the many
> who were interested and he felt, deserved to have at least basic,
> essential information, even if they were not able to hope for finding a
> good teacher or Coven. HOWEVER -- and again, this is crucial: (many of
> us feel that) Scott never intended that his book(s) should REPLACE
> Traditional Wicca, or that those who COULD find good Covens and
> teachers, would avoid or neglect doing so, in favor of this "Solitary"
> and non-initiatory Wicca.
>
> It's really beyond the scope of this brief essay to discuss in any
> depth, the many reasons why Wicca is best (and was meant to be) properly
> taught by experienced High Priests/ Priestesses, and learned and
> practiced in a Coven -- for that, please let me know and i'll post a
> Message addressing that directly.
>
> But anyone who *avoids* being well-trained by a good, experienced and
> well-trained High Priest/ess, or practicing within a Coven, does
> themselves a huge DIS-service; they are extremely unlikely to experience
> some of the most important, central, powerful and beautiful aspects of
> Wicca.
>
> I make such a point of stressing this, because as long as it is clear, i
> feel in can legitimately recommend Cunningham's works in good
> conscience.
>
>
>
> 3 . Good Book Resources On Wicca:
>
>
>
> a. Ellen Cannon Reed's "The Heart of Wicca" --
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Wicca-Wise-Words-Crone/dp/1578631742
> <http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Wicca-Wise-Words-Crone/dp/1578631742>
>
> NOTE: This is the very first and major book i would reccomend!
>
> b. Starhawk's "The Spiral Dance",
>
> c. Janet and Stewart Farrar's "The Witches Bible" -
>
> d. Ray Buckland's "Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft" –
>
> e. Gerald Gardner's "Witchcraft Today" and "The Meaning of Witchcraft"
>
>
>
>
>
> Of course there are many, many other good books, and new ones coming out
> all the time -- These are what might be considered "classics".
>
>
>
> 4. Finally, i thought i'd offer the following link to an article i
> wrote on
>
> "Getting Started In Wicca":
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/17736
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/17736>
>
>
>
>
>
> I hope all of that is helpful -- Please don't hesitate to ask any
> questions!
>
>
>
> Blessed Be - Gaia
>

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3b.: Re: Good RESOURCES on WICCA:

Posted by: "gaia_d" Gaia_D@yahoo.com gaia_d

Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:07 pm (PDT)

Sorry about the problem -- your link is also correct.

~GAia

__________________________________________________

--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan S" <jonathan.d.schultz@...> wrote:
>
> Gaia,
>
> I tried going to the link for Wicca For The Rest Of Us, however it seems as though it is broken - do you know if their site has moved? I found a page that's titled the same but not knowing what content was on the site I wasn't sure if it's the same info. The site I found was...
>
> http://wicca.cnbeyer.com/
>
> Thanks!
>
> --- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups.com, "gaia_dianne" <gaia_dianne@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > GAIA:
> >
> > Hello and Merry Meet, Everyone --
> >
> > First, i'd like to say that it certainly can be difficult to find good,
> > reliable, authentic information, rather than the often garbled, confused
> > and confusing, sometimes MIS-information, that is often found
> > circulating about Paganism -- difficult, but not impossible.
> >
> > I'm Wiccan, so i'm most familiar with that "angle" of things, and that's
> > how i'll approach this question, ok?
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOURCES ON WICCA:
> >
> >
> >
> > CoG - Covenant of the Goddess - http://www.cog.org <http://www.cog.org/>
> >
> > CoG is a national organization of (legally-recognized Wiccan "churches)
> > - Wiccan covens, clergy and solitaries -- with local "councils" in many
> > cities; providing general, basic information, links to resources, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. Circle Sanctuary - http://www.circlesanctuary.org
> > <http://www.circlesanctuary.org/>
> >
> > Circle is a Pagan (not just Wiccan) Sanctuary, working farm, and
> > learning center, offering training, workshops, festivals, networking,
> > etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. Witchvox - http://www.witchvox.com <http://www.witchvox.com/>
> >
> > Witchvox is a wonderful resource that offers general, basic information,
> > referrals and links to local and regional resources.
> >
> >
> >
> > 5. Wicca For the Rest of Us http://wicca.timerift.net/
> > <http://wicca.timerift.net/> -
> >
> > One of the better Pagan internet sites; lots of good information,
> > articles, resources, links, networking, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. "Beginning Wicca" Yahoo Group -
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeginningWicca/
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BeginningWicca/>
> >
> > - One of the better Yahoo groups with several High Priests and
> > Priestess members, so there are lots of good discussions and good
> > information.
> >
> >
> >
> > 5. BlueMoonWicca.org – http://bluemoonwicca.org/classes.html
> > <http://bluemoonwicca.org/classes.html>
> >
> > Classes on Traditional Wicca.
> >
> >
> >
> > 6. Religious Tolerance – Pages on Wicca:
> >
> > http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm
> > <http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm>
> >
> >
> >
> > Conflict Between Wiccans and Christians:
> > http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_conf.htm
> > <http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_conf.htm>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > B. BOOKS:
> >
> > 1. Books And Authors To Avoid:
> >
> > I don't want to be negative, but since these books tend to be very
> > popular (and often recommended by beginners who don't know better) I
> > thought it might be wise to include just a few words on which books
> > should be AVOIDED due to factual errors or ethical problems: (I can
> > provide more info on this, for anyone who requests it).
> >
> > AVOID anything by:
> > 1. Books and Authors To Avoid:
> > Before going any further, however, I want to give you a warning: There
> > are many books that are so-so (pretty good), there are some that are
> > excellent, and there are (too many!) that are crap. As you take this
> > Class, you will begin to be able to make better and better decisions,
> > faster, about which are which, as you check out the books for yourself
> > and compare what they say, with what you're learning in this Class.
> >
> > I hate to be negative, but I do want to give you a warning right away:
> > Here are some that are considered among the worst (because of factual
> > errors, ethical problems, and more) by most experienced Wiccans, but
> > are rather popular (and often even recommended) by beginners who just
> > don't know any better.
> >
> > AVOID Anything By:
> >
> > 1. Silver Ravenwolf – For more on this, please see the article:
> > "Silver Ravenwolf: Positive, Negative, Resources", at
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/21193
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/21193>
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. Douglas Monroe's "21 Lessons of Merlin" See
> >
> > http://www.neopagan.net/21-Lessons.html
> > <http://www.neopagan.net/21-Lessons.html>
> >
> > http://digitalmedievalist.com/reviews/21-lessons/
> > <http://digitalmedievalist.com/reviews/21-lessons/>
> >
> > 3. Kisma Stepanich – has been publically accused of Plagiarism /
> > Fraud: See
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/ferigold/truthfaery/index.html
> > <http://web.archive.org/web/20040513202257/www.geocities.com/ferigold/tr\
> > uthfaery/index.html>
> >
> > http://www.backwash.com/content.php?jouid=5256
> > <http://web.archive.org/web/20050219233009/www.backwash.com/content.php?\
> > jouid=5256>
> >
> > http://www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/library/WhenIsACeltNotACelt.htm
> > <http://www.cyberwitch.com/wychwood/library/WhenIsACeltNotACelt.htm>
> >
> > http://www.summerlands.com/crossroads/remembrance/faery_wicca.htm
> > <http://www.summerlands.com/crossroads/remembrance/faery_wicca.htm>
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. Edain McCoy –
> >
> > http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=10
> > <http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=10>
> >
> > http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=14#response_5
> > <http://www.stopedainmccoy.com/?page_id=14#response_5>
> >
> >
> >
> > 5. Mary Summer Rain –
> >
> > http://www.newagefraud.org/ <http://www.newagefraud.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > OTHERS:
> >
> > See for example, "Problematic Pagans", here:
> > http://www.outofthedark.com/ProblematicPagans/index.html
> > <http://www.outofthedark.com/ProblematicPagans/index.html>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. On Scott Cunningham:
> >
> >
> >
> > A few words on Scott Cunningham and his books, "Wicca: A Guide for the
> > Solitary Practitioner" and "Living Wicca":
> >
> > Scott was a much-beloved, extremely prolific writer of Pagan and Wiccan
> > books and articles. He was Initiated into Gardnerian Wicca, but he
> > became (through writing his two major books, "Wicca; A Guide for the
> > Solitary Practitioner" and its companion volume, "Living Wicca' -- one
> > of the strongest proponents of non-initiatory, solitary and eclectic
> > "Neo-Wicca" (as opposed to "Traditional Wicca", which is generally
> > defined as "an initiatory, lineaged Path whose central Mysteries are
> > generally Oath-bound"). These two books had an extremely profound
> > effect upon Paganism in general and Wicca in particular, and are most
> > often recommended especially by beginners and "intermediate" students --
> > so i think it's important to note and discuss them a bit.
> >
> > First, it's important to note that these two books were published back
> > in 1988, and 1993 -- just as Wicca was beginning to become somewhat
> > popular and generate a great deal of interest, but BEFORE there was a
> > lot of easily-available information on (Traditional) Wicca. Scott "hit"
> > it just right, and his book took off like crazy.
> >
> > But (imo) it's crucial to realize that Scott was advocating a NEW Kind
> > of Wicca -- Until his publications, Wicca was a Mystery, Initiatory,
> > Lineaged Path, whose deepest, most profound principles and practices
> > were oath-bound and not available publically (they still are not, but
> > most beginners don't realize that). Scott wrote his books for the many
> > who were interested and he felt, deserved to have at least basic,
> > essential information, even if they were not able to hope for finding a
> > good teacher or Coven. HOWEVER -- and again, this is crucial: (many of
> > us feel that) Scott never intended that his book(s) should REPLACE
> > Traditional Wicca, or that those who COULD find good Covens and
> > teachers, would avoid or neglect doing so, in favor of this "Solitary"
> > and non-initiatory Wicca.
> >
> > It's really beyond the scope of this brief essay to discuss in any
> > depth, the many reasons why Wicca is best (and was meant to be) properly
> > taught by experienced High Priests/ Priestesses, and learned and
> > practiced in a Coven -- for that, please let me know and i'll post a
> > Message addressing that directly.
> >
> > But anyone who *avoids* being well-trained by a good, experienced and
> > well-trained High Priest/ess, or practicing within a Coven, does
> > themselves a huge DIS-service; they are extremely unlikely to experience
> > some of the most important, central, powerful and beautiful aspects of
> > Wicca.
> >
> > I make such a point of stressing this, because as long as it is clear, i
> > feel in can legitimately recommend Cunningham's works in good
> > conscience.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3 . Good Book Resources On Wicca:
> >
> >
> >
> > a. Ellen Cannon Reed's "The Heart of Wicca" --
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Wicca-Wise-Words-Crone/dp/1578631742
> > <http://www.amazon.com/Heart-Wicca-Wise-Words-Crone/dp/1578631742>
> >
> > NOTE: This is the very first and major book i would reccomend!
> >
> > b. Starhawk's "The Spiral Dance",
> >
> > c. Janet and Stewart Farrar's "The Witches Bible" -
> >
> > d. Ray Buckland's "Buckland's Complete Book of Witchcraft" –
> >
> > e. Gerald Gardner's "Witchcraft Today" and "The Meaning of Witchcraft"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Of course there are many, many other good books, and new ones coming out
> > all the time -- These are what might be considered "classics".
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. Finally, i thought i'd offer the following link to an article i
> > wrote on
> >
> > "Getting Started In Wicca":
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/17736
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Witch_Essentials/message/17736>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope all of that is helpful -- Please don't hesitate to ask any
> > questions!
> >
> >
> >
> > Blessed Be - Gaia
> >
>

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