Messages In This Digest (10 Messages)
- 1.
- Re: to all the artists here From: orryelle defenestrate
- 2.
- REMINDER - MELBOURNE RECLAIMING PUBLIC MABON RITUAL - TODAY! From: SunBird
- 3a.
- So Jehovah got a divorce! From: Tim Hartridge
- 3b.
- Re: So Jehovah got a divorce! From: Kerrie Adie
- 3c.
- Re: So Jehovah got a divorce! From: Tish
- 3d.
- Re: So Jehovah got a divorce! From: Tim Hartridge
- 4a.
- Re: Witchcraft and Paganism From: Kerrie Adie
- 4b.
- Re: Witchcraft and Paganism From: gregorytk
- 5a.
- God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible -- Almost From: Tish
- 5b.
- Re: God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible -- Almost From: Kerrie Adie
Messages
- 1.
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Re: to all the artists here
Posted by: "orryelle defenestrate" odxob@yahoo.com odxob
Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:10 am (PDT)
<Kerrie wrote:>
>Hi Minka, and fellow artists,
>I was wondering ....... would you be interested in selling your pagan art
via an online gallery, selling Pagan specific pieces? Thinking of setting up
one... possibly similar to "Amethyst Gallery"... but would like some
expressions of interest/ feedback from both artists and other interested
parties, before I make the big leap!
Sure, I'm interested. I have some work up here:
http://www.crossroads.wild.net. au/esoterotica. htm
and have plenty more to share.
Minka I loved your Sekhmet pic. Please have a look at my Sekhmet sculpture at
URL above.
Thanks!
SA SEKHEM SAHU
Orryelle
- 2.
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REMINDER - MELBOURNE RECLAIMING PUBLIC MABON RITUAL - TODAY!
Posted by: "SunBird" fimariposa@yahoo.com.au fimariposa
Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:50 pm (PDT)
Melbourne Reclaiming Public Mabon Celebration
Saturday March 19, 5pm
@ Bellbird Picnic Area, Yarra Bend Parklands, Kew
(Melways Ref. Map 2D, K6)
(We will meet in carpark)
Join
us for a celebration of Autumn Equinox, as we begin the journey into
the darker months of the year. We will honour the turning of the
seasons, and the harvest of Summer's fruits.
This is a free public event for Pagans of all ages.
Please Bring:
- decorations for the harvest altar
- a plate of food and some non-alcoholic drink to share
- drums and percussion instruments
- picnic rug
- boots, if it has been raining (the ground can get a bit muddy there!)
For more information, please contact:
Fiona on 03) 9384 1082
Sandra on 0425 757 937
Rhonda on 0408 334 198
This
event is organised by Melbourne Reclaiming, a branch of the Australian
Reclaiming Community. www.australiareclaiming.org. au
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- 3a.
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So Jehovah got a divorce!
Posted by: "Tim Hartridge" ozpagan@ozpagan.com wwwozpagancom
Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:31 pm (PDT)
So Jehovah got a divorce!...or more accurately, according to this
fascinating report, was an "axe-murderer" and chopped the Goddess down!
"God, also known as Yahweh, had a wife named Asherah, according to a
British theologian..."
This fascinating report (care of Rebecca - thank you - and Discovery
News) makes for some very interesting reading.
http://news.discovery. com/history/ god-wife- yahweh-asherah- 110318.htm
vinum sabbati,
Tim
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- 3b.
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Re: So Jehovah got a divorce!
Posted by: "Kerrie Adie" kerrieadie@gmail.com kerrieadie@ymail.com
Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:49 pm (PDT)
MM all,
Tim wrote:
So Jehovah got a divorce!...or more accurately, according to this
fascinating report, was an "axe-murderer" and chopped the Goddess down!
"God, also known as Yahweh, had a wife named Asherah, according to a
British theologian..."
This fascinating report (care of Rebecca - thank you - and Discovery
News) makes for some very interesting reading.
http://news.discovery. com/history/ god-wife- yahweh-asherah- 110318.htm
....... the comments are a pretty good read too!! [?] Just emphasises my view
of the poor ignorant, unread, unenlightened, sods!
Blessings,
Kerrie
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- 3c.
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Re: So Jehovah got a divorce!
Posted by: "Tish" deborahs23@optusnet.com.au morticia_its_me
Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:59 pm (PDT)
Thanks Tim...would like to read this article..but alas this
link tells me it is an error 404 ...do you have another link..if so
would be appreciated...
The thingo when trying to access the link says 404 error..
mistyped or maybe simply old...
Tish
-------Original Message-------
From: Tim Hartridge
Date: 19/03/2011 9:31:55 AM
To: WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [WitchesWorkshop] So Jehovah got a divorce!
So Jehovah got a divorce!...or more accurately, according to this
fascinating report, was an "axe-murderer" and chopped the Goddess down!
"God, also known as Yahweh, had a wife named Asherah, according to a
British theologian..."
This fascinating report (care of Rebecca - thank you - and Discovery
News) makes for some very interesting reading.
http://news.discovery. com/history/ god-wife- yahweh-asherah- 110318.htm
vinum sabbati,
Tim
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- 3d.
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Re: So Jehovah got a divorce!
Posted by: "Tim Hartridge" ozpagan@ozpagan.com wwwozpagancom
Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:48 am (PDT)
On 19/03/2011, at 4:58 PM, Tish wrote:
> link tells me it is an error 404 ...do you have another link..if so
> would be appreciated...
>
>
> The thingo when trying to access the link says 404 error..
> mistyped or maybe simply old...
Just an "l" left of the "html"...
http://news.discovery. com/history/ god-wife- yahweh-asherah- 110318.html
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- 4a.
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Re: Witchcraft and Paganism
Posted by: "Kerrie Adie" kerrieadie@gmail.com kerrieadie@ymail.com
Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:12 pm (PDT)
Greetings Bill,
For what it is worth...... I agree with Sue, Graham, et all!
witchcraft... if we are to believe linguistic scholars means "craft of the
wise". So any adept practisioner (crafter) of their own religion/tradition
could be considered practising witchcraft.......
ooh! just a thought ......with "thou shalt not let a witch to live"......
mmm .... does that mean they (Xtians) are required to stay inept, dumb,
unwise etc to stay alive!!!!
Blessings,
Kerrie
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- 4b.
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Re: Witchcraft and Paganism
Posted by: "gregorytk" gregorytk@bigpond.com theresa.venus
Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:58 pm (PDT)
I think the s..t will hit the fan?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerrie Adie" <kerrieadie@gmail.com >
To: <WitchesWorkshop@yahoogroups. >com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WitchesWorkshop] Witchcraft and Paganism
> Greetings Bill,
>
> For what it is worth...... I agree with Sue, Graham, et all!
>
> witchcraft... if we are to believe linguistic scholars means "craft of the
> wise". So any adept practisioner (crafter) of their own religion/tradition
> could be considered practising witchcraft.......
>
> ooh! just a thought ......with "thou shalt not let a witch to live"......
> mmm .... does that mean they (Xtians) are required to stay inept, dumb,
> unwise etc to stay alive!!!!
>
> Blessings,
> Kerrie
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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- 5a.
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God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible -- Almost
Posted by: "Tish" deborahs23@optusnet.com.au morticia_its_me
Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:16 pm (PDT)
Unreal I had only just finished writing asking Tim for another link
regarding this article..
and what do I find further down in my inbox but possibly the very same
article..
Tish
God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible -- Almost
God's wife, Asherah, was a powerful fertility goddess, according to a
theologian.
By Jennifer Viegas
THE GIST
God, also known as Yahweh, had a wife named Asherah, according to a British
theologian.
Amulets, figurines, inscriptions and ancient texts, including the Bible,
reveal Asherah's once prominent standing.
enlarge
Asherah's connection to Yahweh, according to Stavrakopoulou, is spelled out
in both the Bible and an 8th century B.C. inscription on pottery found in
the Sinai desert at a site called Kuntillet Ajrud. Click to enlarge this
image.
Getty Images
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God had a wife, Asherah, whom the Book of Kings suggests was worshiped
alongside Yahweh in his temple in Israel, according to an Oxford scholar.
In 1967, Raphael Patai was the first historian to mention that the ancient
Israelites worshiped both Yahweh and Asherah. The theory has gained new
prominence due to the research of Francesca Stavrakopoulou, who began her
work at Oxford and is now a senior lecturer in the department of Theology
and Religion at the University of Exeter.
Information presented in Stavrakopoulou's books, lectures and journal papers
has become the basis of a three-part documentary series, now airing in
Europe, where she discusses the Yahweh-Asherah connection.
"You might know him as Yahweh, Allah or God. But on this fact, Jews, Muslims
and Christians, the people of the great Abrahamic religions, are agreed:
There is only one of Him," writes Stavrakopoulou in a statement released to
the British media. "He is a solitary figure, a single, universal creator,
not one God among many ... or so we like to believe."
NEWS: Jesus' Great-Grandmother Identified
"After years of research specializing in the history and religion of Israel,
however, I have come to a colorful and what could seem, to some,
uncomfortable conclusion that God had a wife," she added.
Stavrakopoulou bases her theory on ancient texts, amulets and figurines
unearthed primarily in the ancient Canaanite coastal city called Ugarit, now
modern-day Syria. All of these artifacts reveal that Asherah was a powerful
fertility goddess.
Asherah's connection to Yahweh, according to Stavrakopoulou, is spelled out
in both the Bible and an 8th century B.C. inscription on pottery found in
the Sinai desert at a site called Kuntillet Ajrud.
"The inscription is a petition for a blessing," she shares. "Crucially, the
inscription asks for a blessing from 'Yahweh and his Asherah.' Here was
evidence that presented Yahweh and Asherah as a divine pair. And now a
handful of similar inscriptions have since been found, all of which help to
strengthen the case that the God of the Bible once had a wife."
NEWS: Why Are Religious People Happier?
Also significant, Stavrakopoulou believes, "is the Bible's admission that
the goddess Asherah was worshiped in Yahweh's Temple in Jerusalem. In the
Book of Kings, we're told that a statue of Asherah was housed in the temple
and that female temple personnel wove ritual textiles for her."
J. Edward Wright, president of both The Arizona Center for Judaic Studies
and The Albright Institute for Archaeological Research, told Discovery News
that he agrees several Hebrew inscriptions mention "Yahweh and his Asherah."
"Asherah was not entirely edited out of the Bible by its male editors," he
added. "Traces of her remain, and based on those traces, archaeological
evidence and references to her in texts from nations bordering Israel and
Judah, we can reconstruct her role in the religions of the Southern Levant."
BLOG: Atheists Best Informed About Religion
Asherah -- known across the ancient Near East by various other names, such
as Astarte and Istar -- was "an important deity, one who was both mighty and
nurturing," Wright continued.
"Many English translations prefer to translate 'Asherah' as 'Sacred Tree,'"
Wright said. "This seems to be in part driven by a modern desire, clearly
inspired by the Biblical narratives, to hide Asherah behind a veil once
again."
"Mentions of the goddess Asherah in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) are
rare and have been heavily edited by the ancient authors who gathered the
texts together," Aaron Brody, director of the Bade Museum and an associate
professor of Bible and archaeology at the Pacific School of Religion, said.
Asherah as a tree symbol was even said to have been "chopped down and burned
outside the Temple in acts of certain rulers who were trying to 'purify' the
cult, and focus on the worship of a single male god, Yahweh," he added.
SLIDE SHOW: Sacred Techs: Religion and Spirituality 2.0
The ancient Israelites were polytheists, Brody told Discovery News, "with
only a small minority worshiping Yahweh alone before the historic events of
586 B.C." In that year, an elite community within Judea was exiled to
Babylon and the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. This, Brody said, led to
a more universal vision of strict monotheism: one god not only for Judah,
but for all of the nations."
Unreal I had only finished Tim for another link regarding this article..
and what do I find further down in my inbox but possibly the very same
article..
http://news.discovery. com/history/ god-wife- yahweh-asherah- 110318.html
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- 5b.
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Re: God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible -- Almost
Posted by: "Kerrie Adie" kerrieadie@gmail.com kerrieadie@ymail.com
Sat Mar 19, 2011 2:16 am (PDT)
The very same article, Tish
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Tish <deborahs23@optusnet.com.au > wrote:
>
>
>
> Unreal I had only just finished writing asking Tim for another link
> regarding this article..
> and what do I find further down in my inbox but possibly the very same
> article..
>
>
> Tish
>
>
>
>
>
> God's Wife Edited Out of the Bible -- Almost
> God's wife, Asherah, was a powerful fertility goddess, according to a
> theologian.
>
>
> By Jennifer Viegas
>
> THE GIST
> God, also known as Yahweh, had a wife named Asherah, according to a British
> theologian.
> Amulets, figurines, inscriptions and ancient texts, including the Bible,
> reveal Asherah's once prominent standing.
>
> enlarge
> Asherah's connection to Yahweh, according to Stavrakopoulou, is spelled out
> in both the Bible and an 8th century B.C. inscription on pottery found in
> the Sinai desert at a site called Kuntillet Ajrud. Click to enlarge this
> image.
> Getty Images
>
> RELATED CONTENT
>
>
> Did Leonardo da Vinci use his own shadow to create the outline of Jesus in
> The Last Supper?
> Would Finding E.T. Change Our View of God?
> Belief in God Increases With Government Instability
> RELATED TOPICS
> Archaeology
> Artifacts
> History
> God had a wife, Asherah, whom the Book of Kings suggests was worshiped
> alongside Yahweh in his temple in Israel, according to an Oxford scholar.
> In 1967, Raphael Patai was the first historian to mention that the ancient
> Israelites worshiped both Yahweh and Asherah. The theory has gained new
> prominence due to the research of Francesca Stavrakopoulou, who began her
> work at Oxford and is now a senior lecturer in the department of Theology
> and Religion at the University of Exeter.
> Information presented in Stavrakopoulou's books, lectures and journal
> papers
> has become the basis of a three-part documentary series, now airing in
> Europe, where she discusses the Yahweh-Asherah connection.
> "You might know him as Yahweh, Allah or God. But on this fact, Jews,
> Muslims
> and Christians, the people of the great Abrahamic religions, are agreed:
> There is only one of Him," writes Stavrakopoulou in a statement released to
> the British media. "He is a solitary figure, a single, universal creator,
> not one God among many ... or so we like to believe."
> NEWS: Jesus' Great-Grandmother Identified
> "After years of research specializing in the history and religion of
> Israel,
> however, I have come to a colorful and what could seem, to some,
> uncomfortable conclusion that God had a wife," she added.
> Stavrakopoulou bases her theory on ancient texts, amulets and figurines
> unearthed primarily in the ancient Canaanite coastal city called Ugarit,
> now
> modern-day Syria. All of these artifacts reveal that Asherah was a powerful
> fertility goddess.
> Asherah's connection to Yahweh, according to Stavrakopoulou, is spelled out
> in both the Bible and an 8th century B.C. inscription on pottery found in
> the Sinai desert at a site called Kuntillet Ajrud.
> "The inscription is a petition for a blessing," she shares. "Crucially, the
> inscription asks for a blessing from 'Yahweh and his Asherah.' Here was
> evidence that presented Yahweh and Asherah as a divine pair. And now a
> handful of similar inscriptions have since been found, all of which help to
> strengthen the case that the God of the Bible once had a wife."
> NEWS: Why Are Religious People Happier?
> Also significant, Stavrakopoulou believes, "is the Bible's admission that
> the goddess Asherah was worshiped in Yahweh's Temple in Jerusalem. In the
> Book of Kings, we're told that a statue of Asherah was housed in the temple
> and that female temple personnel wove ritual textiles for her."
> J. Edward Wright, president of both The Arizona Center for Judaic Studies
> and The Albright Institute for Archaeological Research, told Discovery News
> that he agrees several Hebrew inscriptions mention "Yahweh and his
> Asherah."
> "Asherah was not entirely edited out of the Bible by its male editors," he
> added. "Traces of her remain, and based on those traces, archaeological
> evidence and references to her in texts from nations bordering Israel and
> Judah, we can reconstruct her role in the religions of the Southern
> Levant."
> BLOG: Atheists Best Informed About Religion
> Asherah -- known across the ancient Near East by various other names, such
> as Astarte and Istar -- was "an important deity, one who was both mighty
> and
> nurturing," Wright continued.
> "Many English translations prefer to translate 'Asherah' as 'Sacred Tree,'"
> Wright said. "This seems to be in part driven by a modern desire, clearly
> inspired by the Biblical narratives, to hide Asherah behind a veil once
> again."
> "Mentions of the goddess Asherah in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) are
> rare and have been heavily edited by the ancient authors who gathered the
> texts together," Aaron Brody, director of the Bade Museum and an associate
> professor of Bible and archaeology at the Pacific School of Religion, said.
>
> Asherah as a tree symbol was even said to have been "chopped down and
> burned
> outside the Temple in acts of certain rulers who were trying to 'purify'
> the
> cult, and focus on the worship of a single male god, Yahweh," he added.
> SLIDE SHOW: Sacred Techs: Religion and Spirituality 2.0
> The ancient Israelites were polytheists, Brody told Discovery News, "with
> only a small minority worshiping Yahweh alone before the historic events of
> 586 B.C." In that year, an elite community within Judea was exiled to
> Babylon and the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed. This, Brody said, led to
>
> a more universal vision of strict monotheism: one god not only for Judah,
> but for all of the nations."
> Unreal I had only finished Tim for another link regarding this article..
> and what do I find further down in my inbox but possibly the very same
> article..
>
> http://news.discovery. com/history/ god-wife- yahweh-asherah- 110318.html
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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WitchesWorkshop and Witch Camp Australia also run camps
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http://www.witchesworkshop.com
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tolerant and respectful dialogue be strived for in our
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