Messages In This Digest (13 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: LorriePaige
- 1b.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: esther pistone
- 1c.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: Ladyhawke
- 1d.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: Ladyhawke
- 1e.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: Jude DaShiell
- 1f.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: Ladyhawke
- 1g.
- Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three" From: gaia_d
- 2a.
- One question From: Trinity
- 2b.
- Re: One question From: LorriePaige
- 2c.
- Re: One question From: Blackbird
- 2d.
- Re: One question From: roberta.dinnie@three.com.au
- 2e.
- Re: One question From: ~T'rosy~
- 2f.
- Re: One question From: lori esau
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "LorriePaige" anindigogirl@yahoo.com anindigogirl
Thu Jul 7, 2011 4:50 pm (PDT)
Well, it can get complicated, as I personally also believe in reincarnation (I'm a Spiritist also).
So past lives can effect what's going on in one's life as well.
Lorrie
--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@com ...> wrote:
>
> "Ziggy's question was:
> Now my question to you or anyone out there. Since I was only 8 yrs old and
> didn't know about harm none. What do you think? Will I have bad karma? Will
> this come back on me in the future 3 times or do we as Wiccans have a
> defence system?"
>
> My reply was no.. it won't come back to you three times. And that I didn't
> believe in the Rule of Three. I never said there wasn't an energetic
> return. Just that it doesn't come back three times.
>
> If you believe in the Rule of Three.. Then it happens 3 times. Three is
> equal to three, every time!
>
> Otherwise it would be called the Rule of 1/2 to 3.
> Like when someone thinks about doing something a lot, plans it, build energy
> just by the the energy of thought, and then never actually presses the
> button to MAKE it happen..but it happens because of the energy already built
> up, maybe that's only a 1.5 return? LOL
>
> karen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Blackbird <blackbird_61@...> wrote:
>
> > .. Hi All,We began this discussion with Ziggy's Question about her own
> > Karmic Debt..
> >
> With-in my own limited knowledge and judgment of such things, I would have
> > to say, yes you would have incurred some Karmic Debt; but as it apparently
> > was/is not your habit, your pattern, your Dharma to use Magick to cause
> > people harm, or to seek revenge in this world. I would say your lone act,
> > would be like a lone wave on the beach, it will splash around, perhaps shift
> > some stones; but in and of itself it will not reshape the beach. It is the
> > Larger pattern of your life; your Dharma that you need concern yourself with
> > in the end.
> >
> > I hope this post has been helpful.
> >
> > Brightest Blessings, BB.
> >
> > --------------------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> > 1. Of course some readers will know that I am over simplifying here, that
> > according to the Buddhist Doctrine of No Self, there is nothing we can
> > really describe as a Soul; only the constantly evolving pattern of the
> > Dharma; but that is much too complex a debate to get into here.
> >
> >
> >
>
- 1b.
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "esther pistone" marie84047@yahoo.com marie84047
Thu Jul 7, 2011 5:40 pm (PDT)
I have and always will believe in the law of 3. As a child you are learning, making mistakes and growing from these mistakes. Of course if the mistake is substantial then so will the consequence of that action. As an adult we know more than as a child. If we harm someone then it is done so with a conscious act of body and mind so therefore the harm that you have bestowed on another will therfore be bestowed upon you three times more, but it is the same with doing good, do good to another and it will be bestowed upon you three times over. So as the saying goes.......And Ye Harm None....Do What Ye Will.....!--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@ gmail.com > wrote:
From: Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: [Witch_Essentials] Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
To: Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 11:23 PM
"Ziggy's question was:
Now my question to you or anyone out there. Since I was only 8 yrs old and didn't know about harm none. What do you think? Will I have bad karma? Will this come back on me in the future 3 times or do we as Wiccans have a defence system?"
My reply was no.. it won't come back to you three times. And that I didn't believe in the Rule of Three. I never said there wasn't an energetic return. Just that it doesn't come back three times.
If you believe in the Rule of Three.. Then it happens 3 times. Three is equal to three, every time!
Otherwise it would be called the Rule of 1/2 to 3.
Like when someone thinks about doing something a lot, plans it, build energy just by the the energy of thought, and then never actually presses the button to MAKE it happen..but it happens because of the energy already built up, maybe that's only a 1.5 return? LOL
karen
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Blackbird <blackbird_61@yahoo.com > wrote:
.. Hi All,We began this discussion with Ziggy's Question about her own Karmic Debt..
With-in my own limited knowledge and judgment of such things, I would have to say, yes you would have incurred some Karmic Debt; but as it apparently was/is not your habit, your pattern, your Dharma to use Magick to cause people harm, or to seek revenge in this world. I would say your lone act, would be like a lone wave on the beach, it will splash around, perhaps shift some stones; but in and of itself it will not reshape the beach. It is the Larger pattern of your life; your Dharma that you need concern yourself with in the end.
I hope this post has been helpful.
Brightest Blessings, BB.
--------------------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
1. Of course some readers will know that I am over simplifying here, that according to the Buddhist Doctrine of No Self, there is nothing we can really describe as a Soul; only the constantly evolving pattern of the Dharma; but that is much too complex a debate to get into here.
- 1c.
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "Ladyhawke" ladyhawke.karen@gmail.com yerb5
Thu Jul 7, 2011 9:54 pm (PDT)
LOL..
Yeppers. Agreed. I am just not as eloquent in speaking/explaining my
thoughts as some here. I love seeing what others are doing, how they are
doing it. It helps me to further define/hone my own beliefs and ways of
doing. Sometimes I reply in hope of starting a conversation about things to
see where/what people are thinking. Expanding one's worldview and sources
of wise council, sharpens the student/blade/tool.
karen
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Blackbird <blackbird_61@yahoo.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
>
> --- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@com ...>
> wrote:
> >
> Re: [Witch_Essentials] Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
>
> "Ziggy's question was:
> Now my question to you or anyone out there. Since I was only 8 yrs old and
> didn't know about harm none. What do you think? Will I have bad karma? Will
> this come back on me in the future 3 times or do we as Wiccans have a
> defence system?"
>
> My reply was no.. it won't come back to you three times. And that I didn't
> believe in the Rule of Three. I never said there wasn't an energetic
> return. Just that it doesn't come back three times.
>
> If you believe in the Rule of Three.. Then it happens 3 times. Three is
> equal to three, every time!
>
> Otherwise it would be called the Rule of 1/2 to 3.
> Like when someone thinks about doing something a lot, plans it, build
> energy just by the the energy of thought, and then never actually presses
> the button to MAKE it happen..but it happens because of the energy already
> built up, maybe that's only a 1.5 return? LOL
>
> karen
>
> BB re:
>
> Please do understand I was taking the oppertunity to use your Bank Account
> Analogy as a jumping off point, but I was not in any way trying to dis your
> position. Which you made quite clear in a post I approved, but seems to
> have gotten lost in cyberspace. My bad I expect, things have been
> malfunctioning around me all week; I seem to have my own personal Mercury Rx
> going on just now.
>
> No I actually agree with the detail of your position, as I think my larger
> post makes clear, if the Buddhists are right, and I think they are about
> this issue; it is the Dharma of the Universe to seek balance, the rule of 3
> taken literally would create a very unbalanced universe that inheriently
> over reacted to any energy put into it's system; and I dont believe that is
> the case;
>
> but of course ... the world is a bit more complex in that as Chaos theory
> tells us A butterfly beating its wings in Africa under just the right
> circumstances can create the imbalance that grows into a Hurrican, but a
> Hurrican (or any storm really) is the process by which nature rebalances
> herself. So while Balance is the ultimate Dharma, the road taken to get
> there might lead us through Katrina.
>
> Blessings, BB.
>
>
>
- 1d.
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "Ladyhawke" ladyhawke.karen@gmail.com yerb5
Fri Jul 8, 2011 2:06 am (PDT)
Who said we should poopoo all rules?
I just said that I do not believe in the "Rule of Three". Nor do I
believe that the writers of said rule, mis-wrote it to make it easier to
understand the principles of energetic return. The "Rule of Three" is a
religious tenant followed by some Wiccans. Certainly not followed by all
Wiccans, nor only by Wiccans. Many witches and pagans who aren't Wiccan
don't follow the "Rule of Three" either.
I also find it interesting that the words "experienced" are thrown about as
though anyone who is truly an experienced practitioner of the arts would
naturally follow that particular rule. Not so. I know of many very
experienced pagans, witches, magicians, etc (including many experienced
people on this list) who don't follow this "tenant" and their lives have the
same ups and downs as any other mindful practitioner.
The "rule of 3" isn't a natural law. If it were, it would work for
everyone, every time. And it would quickly make firm believers after the
first working.
I'm not saying that anyone else should or shouldn't agree/believe in it.
Just that I don't.
karen
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, LorriePaige <anindigogirl@yahoo.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> I agree with Gaia....
>
> In every kind of living, there are rules--like them or not. Be it laws of
> government or laws of nature. To poo-poo all rules will land a person in
> deep trouble.
>
> I find it interesting when I hear witches always using spells and/or
> complaining about their life's problems...a witch going by nature's laws
> will rarely have problems in their life and will VERY RARELY use spellwork,
> as when a witch goes with the laws of nature they will not need to use
> spellwork as things will naturally turn out wonderful every day in their
> life 99% of the time. They will only need to use spellwork to help others
> less fortunate....I have found this is true through my own research, through
> experienced, very knowledgeable witches, and more and more in my own life. I
> rarely need to use spells.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> --- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@com ...>
> wrote:
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > To me the rule of 3 smacks too closely to tenants of other religion's
> > rules.
> > Maybe as a form of control?
> > Maybe to make Wicca look better. (as in: Hey! Wiccans can't be all that
> bad,
> > after all: whatever they do comes back to them 3 times!)
> >
> > Whatever the truth may be, I don't think the rule of 3 was stated that
> way
> > as a matter of convenience in explaining the principle of energetic
> returns.
> >
> > karen
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:03 AM, gaia_d <Gaia_D@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Since this subject has arisen lately, i'd like to make a few comments:
> > >
> > > The idea of "Karma" is not necessarily a part of Wicca, but many
> Wiccans
> > > have "adapted" it -- Albeit, without really understanding it!
> > >
> > > Karma is *NOT* any sort of "punishment" for bad deeds and "reward" for
> good
> > > deeds --
> > >
> > > That's a faulty understanding of the principle.
> > >
> > > Karma is instead, the NATURAL CONSEQUENCES of whatever intentions,
> deeds,
> > > and emotions --
> > >
> > > Think of it as the "economy" of the Universe: Whatever we send out,
> returns
> > > to us -- NOT in "reward" or "punishment", but because that is what we
> have
> > > PROMOTED and "sown" (made grow) into the Universe.
> > >
> > > And the idea that it must always be "three times" what we've sent out,
> is
> > > again, a FAULTY understanding of the principle --
> > >
> > > For *convenience* the principle has been named, "The Rule of Three",
> but
> > > it's no "rule" and it's not always "three times".
> > >
> > > It's important to do some study of the principles we hear passed around
> --
> > > especially from more experienced, knowledgeable and/or well-trained
> folks,
> > > rather than other beginners who may not know much more than we do, but
> are
> > > just repeating what they've heard in chats or discussion groups, from
> OTHER
> > > beginners --
> > >
> > > Blessed Be -
> > > ~Gaia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "Jude DaShiell" jdashiel@shellworld.net
Fri Jul 8, 2011 3:47 am (PDT)
It's more complex than that. You haven't even mentioned the other side
of the coin. A failure to get involved which enables harm at the time
or in the future if a reasonable man (legal) would have known or should
have known harm then or in the future would happen can be just as costly
as any conscious action taken by an individual. That side of the coin
especially for people with psychic ability is especially troublesome.
That's the reason why I wrote reasonable man (legal) earlier though.
Using this model of Universal economy though brings up some interesting
questions for people who represent extreme cases. Who was Hitler in
earlier lives and what happened to those individuals to set the stage
for what he did and the world impact that happened during and after his
life? Which of the cause and effect threads are connected to Hitler and
which are not? I don't believe in the rule of three either since that
rule in action perpetuates multiple generations of continuing radical
imbalance and you don't have a working economy for long with radical
continuing imbalance in it. Physics doesn't even support that logic. I
do believe in balance though although not necessarily immediate or
proximte balance though. This brings up another problem though.
Because we can't know where we are on any of these threads of action and
inaction, probably forgiveness is inappropriate since if inappropriately
providing forgiveness enables future harm which otherwise would have
been prevented the individual who provides forgiveness in that same act
has also done harm for which they will have to pay. I think forgiveness
and vengeance are two sides of a bad coin neither of which can properly
be used in the Universal economy without cost to the user. In my life
earlier I've had plenty of bad things happen to me which effect me to
this day since those had ongoing physical consequences, so I've been
there and done that and have the T-shirt to prove it. Ultimately I
think maybe the best policy is to allow the economy to do its job and
take care of those people who did those bad things at its own
convenience and no I don't want to know anything more about it. That's
my way of detaching from any of those threads. Another element here is
fate though since free will notwithstanding all of the writing done by
its supporters has decreasing amounts of support in the psychological
research community since 1960 also plays a part here. The keyword there
is also, since free will plays a part for inventors of technology and
all consequences of every one of those whether successes or failures.
How fate gets expressed though is through genetics since personality
comes down through multiple generations through varying people in family
trees. So far as D.N.A. research now knows and my source for this was
the public broadcasting channel in my area the first individual to
exhibit the trait of rape was an Irish King who they named. Every one
of the rapists they researched for that TV program had that King in
their family tree. This was one of those programs the p.b.s. station
aired in their active fund raising periods. The TV program supported
something known as the Human History Project. As I wrote earlier, it's
more complex than that.
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, esther pistone wrote:
> I have and always will believe in the law of 3. As a child you are learning, making mistakes and growing from these mistakes. Of course if the mistake is substantial then so will the consequence of that action. As an adult we know more than as a child. If we harm someone then it is done so with a conscious act of body and mind so therefore the harm that you have bestowed on another will therfore be bestowed upon you three times more, but it is the same with doing good, do good to another and it will be bestowed upon you three times over. So as the saying goes.......And Ye Harm None....Do What Ye Will.....!--- On Wed, 7/6/11, Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@ gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> From: Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@gmail.com >
> Subject: Re: [Witch_Essentials] Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
> To: Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2011, 11:23 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ziggy's question was:
> Now my question to you or anyone out there. Since I was only 8 yrs old and didn't know about harm none. What do you think? Will I have bad karma? Will this come back on me in the future 3 times or do we as Wiccans have a defence system?"
>
> My reply was no.. it won't come back to you three times. And that I didn't believe in the Rule of Three. I never said there wasn't an energetic return. Just that it doesn't come back three times.
>
> If you believe in the Rule of Three.. Then it happens 3 times. Three is equal to three, every time!
>
> Otherwise it would be called the Rule of 1/2 to 3.
> Like when someone thinks about doing something a lot, plans it, build energy just by the the energy of thought, and then never actually presses the button to MAKE it happen..but it happens because of the energy already built up, maybe that's only a 1.5 return? LOL
>
> karen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Blackbird <blackbird_61@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .. Hi All,We began this discussion with Ziggy's Question about her own Karmic Debt..
>
>
>
>
>
> With-in my own limited knowledge and judgment of such things, I would have to say, yes you would have incurred some Karmic Debt; but as it apparently was/is not your habit, your pattern, your Dharma to use Magick to cause people harm, or to seek revenge in this world. I would say your lone act, would be like a lone wave on the beach, it will splash around, perhaps shift some stones; but in and of itself it will not reshape the beach. It is the Larger pattern of your life; your Dharma that you need concern yourself with in the end.
> I hope this post has been helpful.
> Brightest Blessings, BB.
> --------------------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
> 1. Of course some readers will know that I am over simplifying here, that according to the Buddhist Doctrine of No Self, there is nothing we can really describe as a Soul; only the constantly evolving pattern of the Dharma; but that is much too complex a debate to get into here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "Ladyhawke" ladyhawke.karen@gmail.com yerb5
Fri Jul 8, 2011 4:15 am (PDT)
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@gmail.com >wrote:
Who said we should poo poo all rules?
>
> I just said that I do not believe in the "Rule of Three". Nor do I
> believe that the writers of said rule, mis-wrote it to make it easier to
> understand the principles of energetic return. The "Rule of Three" is a
> religious tenant followed by some Wiccans. Certainly not followed by all
> Wiccans, nor only by Wiccans.
> Many witches and pagans who aren't Wiccan don't follow the "Rule of Three".
>
> I also find it interesting that the words "experienced" are thrown about as
> though anyone who is truly an experienced practitioner of the arts would
> naturally follow that particular rule. Not so. I know of many very
> experienced pagans, witches, magicians, etc (including many experienced
> people on this list) who don't follow this "tenant" and their lives have the
> same ups and downs as any other mindful practitioner.
>
> The "rule of 3" isn't a natural law. If it were, it would work for
> everyone, every time. And it would quickly make firm believers after the
> first working.
>
> I'm not saying that anyone else should or shouldn't agree/believe in it.
> Just that I don't.
>
> karen
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, LorriePaige <anindigogirl@yahoo.com >wrote:
>
>> I agree with Gaia....
>>
>> In every kind of living, there are rules--like them or not. Be it laws of
>> government or laws of nature. To poo-poo all rules will land a person in
>> deep trouble.
>>
>> I find it interesting when I hear witches always using spells and/or
>> complaining about their life's problems...a witch going by nature's laws
>> will rarely have problems in their life and will VERY RARELY use spellwork,
>> as when a witch goes with the laws of nature they will not need to use
>> spellwork as things will naturally turn out wonderful every day in their
>> life 99% of the time. They will only need to use spellwork to help others
>> less fortunate....I have found this is true through my own research, through
>> experienced, very knowledgeable witches, and more and more in my own life. I
>> rarely need to use spells.
>>
>> Lorrie
>>
>>
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Re: On Karma & the "Rule of Three"
Posted by: "gaia_d" Gaia_D@yahoo.com gaia_d
Fri Jul 8, 2011 4:33 am (PDT)
--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@com ...> wrote:
>
> Who said we should poopoo all rules?
>
> I just said that I do not believe in the "Rule of Three". Nor do I
> believe that the writers of said rule, mis-wrote it to make it easier to
> understand the principles of energetic return. The "Rule of Three" is a
> religious tenant followed by some Wiccans. Certainly not followed by all
> Wiccans, nor only by Wiccans. Many witches and pagans who aren't Wiccan
> don't follow the "Rule of Three" either.
>
> I also find it interesting that the words "experienced" are thrown about as
> though anyone who is truly an experienced practitioner of the arts would
> naturally follow that particular rule. Not so. I know of many very
> experienced pagans, witches, magicians, etc (including many experienced
> people on this list) who don't follow this "tenant" and their lives have the
> same ups and downs as any other mindful practitioner.
>
> The "rule of 3" isn't a natural law. If it were, it would work for
> everyone, every time. And it would quickly make firm believers after the
> first working.
>
> I'm not saying that anyone else should or shouldn't agree/believe in it.
> Just that I don't.
>
> karen
>
GAIA:
I'd just like to say that i agree with Karen, and want to clarify my position:
-- There are many (both Wiccan and non, both Pagan and otherwise) who do NOT accept or follow the "Rule of Three" ;
-- and in no way did i intend to suggest that it "must" be or is followed by all --
Blessings - Gaia
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:16 PM, LorriePaige <anindigogirl@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I agree with Gaia....
> >
> > In every kind of living, there are rules--like them or not. Be it laws of
> > government or laws of nature. To poo-poo all rules will land a person in
> > deep trouble.
> >
> > I find it interesting when I hear witches always using spells and/or
> > complaining about their life's problems...a witch going by nature's laws
> > will rarely have problems in their life and will VERY RARELY use spellwork,
> > as when a witch goes with the laws of nature they will not need to use
> > spellwork as things will naturally turn out wonderful every day in their
> > life 99% of the time. They will only need to use spellwork to help others
> > less fortunate....I have found this is true through my own research, through
> > experienced, very knowledgeable witches, and more and more in my own life. I
> > rarely need to use spells.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > --- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , Ladyhawke <ladyhawke.karen@com >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > To me the rule of 3 smacks too closely to tenants of other religion's
> > > rules.
> > > Maybe as a form of control?
> > > Maybe to make Wicca look better. (as in: Hey! Wiccans can't be all that
> > bad,
> > > after all: whatever they do comes back to them 3 times!)
> > >
> > > Whatever the truth may be, I don't think the rule of 3 was stated that
> > way
> > > as a matter of convenience in explaining the principle of energetic
> > returns.
> > >
> > > karen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:03 AM, gaia_d <Gaia_D@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Since this subject has arisen lately, i'd like to make a few comments:
> > > >
> > > > The idea of "Karma" is not necessarily a part of Wicca, but many
> > Wiccans
> > > > have "adapted" it -- Albeit, without really understanding it!
> > > >
> > > > Karma is *NOT* any sort of "punishment" for bad deeds and "reward" for
> > good
> > > > deeds --
> > > >
> > > > That's a faulty understanding of the principle.
> > > >
> > > > Karma is instead, the NATURAL CONSEQUENCES of whatever intentions,
> > deeds,
> > > > and emotions --
> > > >
> > > > Think of it as the "economy" of the Universe: Whatever we send out,
> > returns
> > > > to us -- NOT in "reward" or "punishment", but because that is what we
> > have
> > > > PROMOTED and "sown" (made grow) into the Universe.
> > > >
> > > > And the idea that it must always be "three times" what we've sent out,
> > is
> > > > again, a FAULTY understanding of the principle --
> > > >
> > > > For *convenience* the principle has been named, "The Rule of Three",
> > but
> > > > it's no "rule" and it's not always "three times".
> > > >
> > > > It's important to do some study of the principles we hear passed around
> > --
> > > > especially from more experienced, knowledgeable and/or well-trained
> > folks,
> > > > rather than other beginners who may not know much more than we do, but
> > are
> > > > just repeating what they've heard in chats or discussion groups, from
> > OTHER
> > > > beginners --
> > > >
> > > > Blessed Be -
> > > > ~Gaia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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One question
Posted by: "Trinity" witchofhope@yahoo.com witchofhope
Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:45 pm (PDT)
Is this a wiccan group.
I was looking for Traditional Witchcraft where there isn't a rule of three or karma, so I think I'm in the wrong group. Could someone please help me out. If this is Wiccan then I'm sorry but I've made a mistake in joining and will respectfully decline my membership.
Thank You.
- 2b.
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Re: One question
Posted by: "LorriePaige" anindigogirl@yahoo.com anindigogirl
Thu Jul 7, 2011 9:06 pm (PDT)
This is a group of all different faiths and religions. Check out the homepage for the information.
I think the Wiccan type people are more vocal--at least recently--than others. Other witches can certainly discuss other things.
But if you are looking for a traditional ONLY witchcraft group, well, this of course isn't the place.
Lorrie
--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , "Trinity" <witchofhope@com ...> wrote:
>
> Is this a wiccan group.
> I was looking for Traditional Witchcraft where there isn't a rule of three or karma, so I think I'm in the wrong group. Could someone please help me out. If this is Wiccan then I'm sorry but I've made a mistake in joining and will respectfully decline my membership.
> Thank You.
>
- 2c.
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Re: One question
Posted by: "Blackbird" blackbird_61@yahoo.com blackbird_61
Thu Jul 7, 2011 9:06 pm (PDT)
Hi Trinity,
I'm a bit confused by your use of the term, "Traditional Witchcraft"
here, but our group is a pretty ecletic one,
I believe I am correct in saying Gaia is a Wiccan on a Brit Trad Path,
I know we have others on a more Electic Path, and I Identify myself as
simply Pagan, as my interest in Witchcraft is more focused on The Craft,
than on Wicca as a Religion per se; my own spiritual path resonating
with a more Archaic Paganism really. I do hope you will rething
resigning your membership, certainly till Gaia has replied; if you have
another point of view to offer, I think it would profit all concerned
to hear it, no?
Brightest Blessings, BB.
--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , "Trinity" <witchofhope@com ...>
wrote:
>
Is this a wiccan group.
I was looking for Traditional Witchcraft where there isn't a rule of
three or
karma, so I think I'm in the wrong group. Could someone please help me
out. If
this is Wiccan then I'm sorry but I've made a mistake in joining and
will
respectfully decline my membership.
Thank You.
- 2d.
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Re: One question
Posted by: "roberta.dinnie@three.com.au" roberta.dinnie@three.com.au fowlsfeet
Thu Jul 7, 2011 9:22 pm (PDT)
Hi Trinity,
I'm not Wiccan, just a Solitary Elemental.
I view this group as an eclectic melting pot where you can get to
see all ideas and opinions.
---- Original Message ----
From: Trinity <witchofhope@yahoo.com >
To: Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2011, 10:45 AM
Subject: [Witch_Essentials] One question
Is this a wiccan group.
I was looking for Traditional Witchcraft where there isn't a rule
of three or karma, so I think I'm in the wrong group. Could
someone please help me out. If this is Wiccan then I'm sorry but
I've made a mistake in joining and will respectfully decline my
membership.
Thank You.
- 2e.
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Re: One question
Posted by: "~T'rosy~" rosyrock1968@yahoo.com.au rosyrock1968
Fri Jul 8, 2011 12:23 am (PDT)
I have to say I enjoy the diversity of opinion here. It keeps the old brain ticking over and more than once has sent me on hours long sessions of internet searches which have expanded my knowledge and my mind. I suppose there's always that attitude of "take what you need and leave the rest," but even the "rest" I find I love to research and dissect and understand before I leave it behind!
Be totally at peace with whatever you decide, that's what's most important.
rosy
_____________________ _________ __
From: Trinity <witchofhope@yahoo.com >
To: Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, 8 July 2011 11:48 AM
Subject: [Witch_Essentials] One question
Is this a wiccan group.
I was looking for Traditional Witchcraft where there isn't a rule of three or karma, so I think I'm in the wrong group. Could someone please help me out. If this is Wiccan then I'm sorry but I've made a mistake in joining and will respectfully decline my membership.
Thank You.
- 2f.
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Re: One question
Posted by: "lori esau" kirubitme@yahoo.com kirubitme
Fri Jul 8, 2011 4:27 am (PDT)
I would like to add that I totally agree with Blackbird on this Trinity. We
would love your input.
_____________________ _________ __
From: Blackbird <blackbird_61@yahoo.com >
To: Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, July 7, 2011 9:55:11 PM
Subject: [Witch_Essentials] Re: One question
Hi Trinity,
I'm a bit confused by your use of the term, "Traditional Witchcraft"
here, but our group is a pretty ecletic one,
I believe I am correct in saying Gaia is a Wiccan on a Brit Trad Path,
I know we have others on a more Electic Path, and I Identify myself as
simply Pagan, as my interest in Witchcraft is more focused on The Craft,
than on Wicca as a Religion per se; my own spiritual path resonating
with a more Archaic Paganism really. I do hope you will rething
resigning your membership, certainly till Gaia has replied; if you have
another point of view to offer, I think it would profit all concerned
to hear it, no?
Brightest Blessings, BB.
--- In Witch_Essentials@yahoogroups. , "Trinity" <witchofhope@com ...>
wrote:
>
Is this a wiccan group.
I was looking for Traditional Witchcraft where there isn't a rule of
three or
karma, so I think I'm in the wrong group. Could someone please help me
out. If
this is Wiccan then I'm sorry but I've made a mistake in joining and
will
respectfully decline my membership.
Thank You.
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